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Patrimoniado

English translation: Bequeathed by the university

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Portuguese term or phrase:Patrimoniado
English translation:Bequeathed by the university

08:48 Sep 27, 2023
    The asker opted for community grading. The question was closed on 2023-09-30 14:54:26 based on peer agreement (or, if there were too few peer comments, asker preference.)


Portuguese to English translations [PRO]
Science - Zoology / Museologia
Portuguese term or phrase: Patrimoniado
Trecho que contém o termo: "o acervo foi patrimoniado pela universidade".

Trata-se de um artigo científico sobre itens de uma coleção zoológica particular que foi patrimoniada por uma universidade.
Lívia Pinheiro
Brazil
Local time: 03:00
Bequeathed by the university
Explanation:
Bequeathed by the university
Note: Sometimes bequeath is used for things handed down without death,

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Note added at 4 hrs (2023-09-27 13:37:51 GMT)
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OR (changing it around a bit) WAS INHERITED FROM THE UNIVERSITY
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Nick Taylor
Local time: 07:00
Grading comment
Trabalhei um tempo no Natural History Museum de Londres e é mesmo essa palavra que eles usam lá. Obrigada!
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Summary of answers provided
4Bequeathed by the university
Nick Taylor
4acquired
philgoddard
4owned (by the university)
Oliver Simões
5 -1receive/d as an endowment
Adrian MM.
3(gave as) patrimony
Muriel Vasconcellos
3... was considered an asset of the University
Clauwolf
3got
Douglas Bissell
3Inherited
Jack Martin
Summary of reference entries provided
Coleção privada doada à Universidade?
Ana Vozone

Discussion entries: 1





  

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(gave as) patrimony


Explanation:
pat·ri·mo·ny
/ˈpatrəˌmōnē/
noun
property inherited from one's father or male ancestor.
"owners refuse to part with their patrimony in the interests of agricultural development"
heritage.
"an organization that saves the world's cultural patrimony by restoring historic buildings"

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Or "gifted"' a patrimony

Muriel Vasconcellos
United States
Local time: 23:00
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... was considered an asset of the University


Explanation:
:)

Clauwolf
Local time: 03:00
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Bequeathed by the university


Explanation:
Bequeathed by the university
Note: Sometimes bequeath is used for things handed down without death,

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Note added at 4 hrs (2023-09-27 13:37:51 GMT)
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OR (changing it around a bit) WAS INHERITED FROM THE UNIVERSITY

Nick Taylor
Local time: 07:00
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Trabalhei um tempo no Natural History Museum de Londres e é mesmo essa palavra que eles usam lá. Obrigada!
Notes to answerer
Asker: Alguém reclamou que as regras dizem que eu deveria ter esperado 24h para avaliar. Isso não é verdade. Há a possibilidade de deixar para a comunidade escolher, foi o que fiz. Particularmente acho que esta é a resposta mais adequada, tanto porque se trata de uma coleção particular que foi herdada pela universidade (o que, no meu entender, se encaixa perfeitamente à definição da palavra), quando porque é de fato o termo que já vi sendo utilizado na prática nesse contexto no Natural History Museum de Londres.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Oliver Simões: "Bequeath" is to leave property by will, which is very unlikey in the case of a university. The curator(s) of the collection perhaps could bequeath, not the university itself. See https://n9.cl/l0w8z9 and https://n9.cl/78vay
10 mins
disagree  philgoddard: You haven't given any references, and I believe this is the very opposite of the correct meaning. And no, assets are bequeathed when a person dies - universities don't die.
1 hr
agree  Ana Vozone: Did you mean "bequeathed to the university". Pls see discussion above.
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acquired


Explanation:
'A palavra patrimoniado, «que possui ou recebeu patrimônio» (Dicionário Houaiss), está de facto registada em diversos dicionários gerais. A sua configuração, que é a de um adjetivo participial, pressupõe uma forma verbal, patrimoniar, que, não obstante estar bem formada, não se encontra dicionarizada.

Assinale-se, porém, que o significado de patrimoniado supõe interpretar patrimoniar como «possuir ou receber património», e não o significado de «fazer de alguma coisa património», como pretende o consulente. Esse novo significado, não sendo arbitrário, porque há modelos de criação lexical semelhantes – por exemplo, matrimoniar, «esposar», de matrimónio (cf. Diconário Houaiss) –, é uma total inovação, que exige a necessária difusão entre os falantes para se impor. Refira-se ainda que já se usa o vocábulo patrimonializar, que, no entanto, adquiriu um significado muito específico: «dar a alguma coisa o estatuto de património no contexto da cultura local, nacional ou mundial».'

http://ciberduvidas.iscte-iul.pt/consultorio/perguntas/sobre...

philgoddard
United States
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Adrian MM.: it's pity you never picked up on the patrimônio / capital endowment point.
2 hrs
  -> It's not a pity at all. How can a bunch of (presumably dead) animals be part of a capital endowment?
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patrimoniado
owned (by the university)


Explanation:
According to Ciberdúvidas da Língua Portuguesa:

'A palavra patrimoniado, «que possui ou recebeu patrimônio» (Dicionário Houaiss), está de facto registada em diversos dicionários gerais. A sua configuração, que é a de um adjetivo participial, pressupõe uma forma verbal, patrimoniar, que, não obstante estar bem formada, não se encontra dicionarizada.

Assinale-se, porém, que o significado de patrimoniado supõe interpretar patrimoniar como «possuir ou receber património», e não o significado de «fazer de alguma coisa património», como pretende o consulente. Esse novo significado, não sendo arbitrário, porque há modelos de criação lexical semelhantes – por exemplo, matrimoniar, «esposar», de matrimónio (cf. Diconário Houaiss) –, é uma total inovação, que exige a necessária difusão entre os falantes para se impor. Refira-se ainda que já se usa o vocábulo patrimonializar, que, no entanto, adquiriu um significado muito específico: «dar a alguma coisa o estatuto de património no contexto da cultura local, nacional ou mundial».

in Ciberdúvidas da Língua Portuguesa, https://ciberduvidas.iscte-iul.pt/consultorio/perguntas/sobr... [consultado em 27-09-2023]

In this particular context, it makes more sense to think of the animal collection as being received by the university and therefore owned by it. More context would be needed to derive a more accurate translation.

Oliver Simões
United States
Local time: 23:00
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  philgoddard: You've given exactly the same reference as me, but 15 minutes later. It says 'possui ou recebeu' - I think the latter is more likely, since it's someone else's collection given to the university, perhaps after they died.
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got


Explanation:
The university got a collection ....

Douglas Bissell
Portugal
Local time: 07:00
Native speaker of: English
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patrimoniar / ado
receive/d as an endowment


Explanation:
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o acervo foi patrimoniado pela universidade : the estate had been received as an endowment - rather than simply 'acquired' by the University.

Example sentence(s):
  • IATE: en endowment funds COM pt fundos *patrimoniais* COM fundos de dotação
  • University endowments are comprised of money or other financial assets that are donated to academic institutions. Charitable donations are the primary source of funds for endowments.

    Reference: http://iate.europa.eu/search/result/1695831973201/1
    Reference: http://www.collegeraptor.com/find-colleges/articles/question...
Adrian MM.
Austria
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

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disagree  philgoddard: Acervo doesn't mean estate.
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Inherited


Explanation:
was inherited by the University

the previous owner left the collection to the University

Jack Martin
Brazil
Local time: 03:00
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Reference comments


6 hrs
Reference: Coleção privada doada à Universidade?

Reference information:
bequeathed to the University?

https://www.google.com/search?q="bequeathed to the universit...

Ana Vozone
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
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