kriegsmäßig

English translation: reformulate

01:57 Jul 20, 2023

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German term or phrase: kriegsmäßig

From a 1941 letter, written in Vienna:

"Vaters Geburtstag ist kriegsmäßig ausgefallen. Er bekam eine Flasche Wein, eine Flasche Schnaps und ein Packerl Rauchtabak. Das eigentliche Geschenk, ein Nachthemd, das Adi anfertigen ließ, ist noch nicht hier, da man jetzt nichts schicken kann, soll aber nächste Woche per Boten kommen. Das fleischlose Geburtstagsmenü bestand aus eine falsche Rindssuppe..." etc. etc.

Not sure of the meaning of "kriegsmäßig" in this context.

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Local time: 08:43

English translation:reformulate

Explanation:

Because of the war, we weren’t able to celebrate Father’s birthday with all the usual trappings…

or something along this line

Selected response from:

Brent Sørensen
Germany
Local time: 15:43

Grading comment

Vielen Dank!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

3 +9

reformulate

Brent Sørensen

1 +3

because of the war / on account of the war

andres-larsen

The war put paid to father's usual birthday celebrations.

Anna Wright

fell victim to the/became a casualty of the war

Michael Martin, MA

4 -1

on a war footing

Andrew Bramhall

4 -3

be cancel(l)ed by war / the War

Adrian MM.

3 -5

become moderate

José Patrício

Discussion entries: 8

Answers

14 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +9

reformulate

Explanation:

Because of the war, we weren’t able to celebrate Father’s birthday with all the usual trappings…

or something along this line

Brent Sørensen
Germany
Local time: 15:43
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 4

Grading comment

Vielen Dank!

Notes to answerer

Asker: This makes sense. So maybe the sentence is something like: "Father's birthday turned out as only a birthday in wartime could." (Followed by a number of problems and shortcomings surrounding the event.)

45 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

because of the war / on account of the war

Explanation:
Father's birthday was not celebrated / We didn't celebrate Father's birthday because of the war / on account of the war. He got a bottle of wine, a bottle of schnapps and a pack of smoking tobacco. The actual gift, a nightgown that Adi had made, isn't here yet, since we can't send anything right now, but it's supposed to come by courier next week. The meatless birthday menu consisted of an imitation beef broth / a fake beef broth.

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Note added at 46 mins (2023-07-20 02:43:37 GMT)
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kriegsbedingt | Wörterbuch Englisch-Deutsch - dict.cc
https://www.dict.cc › s=kriegsbedingt
Deutsch-Englisch-Übersetzung für "kriegsbedingt" ... because of the war {adv} · on account of the war · resulting from the war {adj}.

andres-larsen
Venezuela
Local time: 09:43
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 4

5 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): -3

kriegsmäßig ausfallen be cancel(l)ed by war / the War

Explanation:
Father's birthday had been ..

A common enough way of putting it - without making a meal of it and in the UK at least, as in 'Christmas had been cancelled by or over the Pandemic, shortage of money, someone's death etc.'.

No refs. or example sentences possible as wiped out 'by or owing to tech problems.'

Adrian MM.
Austria
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 24

6 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

on a war footing

Explanation:
"Father's birthday turned out on a war footing (this year). He got a bottle of wine, a bottle of schnapps and a packet of hand-rolling tobacco. The actual present, a nightgown that Adi had made, is not here yet, as nothing can be sent now, but it should come by messenger next week. The meatless birthday menu consisted of a fake beef soup..." etc. etc.

Andrew Bramhall
United Kingdom
Local time: 14:43
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 4

6 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): -5

become moderate

Explanation:
The phase is a little idiomatic: krieg=guerra; mäßig=with moderation; mäßig ausfallen = to turn out moderately [or to be moderate]. Then, to make sense we will say 'turned moderate', perhaps better 'become moderate'; it makes sense 'was moderated' too.
ausfallen -https://www.dict.cc/?s=ausfallenhttps://www.dict.cc/?s=ausfa...
ausgefallen, offbeat {ungewöhnlich} - unusual {adj}, https://www.dict.cc/?s=ausgefallen
Vaters Geburtstag ist kriegsmäßig ausgefallen - Father's birthday become moderate because of the war
mäßig ausfallen - to turn out moderately [or to be moderate] - https://de.pons.com/übersetzung/deutsch-englisch/mäßig
to turn out moderately means to turn inexpansive, economic, cheap
inexpensive {adj} - kostengünstig - https://www.dict.cc/?s=Inexpensive
economic, economical {adj}, cheap - kostengünstig - https://www.dict.cc/?s=kostengünstig
mäßig - with moderation - the same link

José Patrício
Portugal
Local time: 14:43
Native speaker of:

Portuguese

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

disagree

Andrew Bramhall: Doesn't work in this context,sorry;

5 mins

disagree

Björn Vrooman: You yourself have translated "kriegsmäßig" as "because of the war" so I have no idea why you'd suggest "become moderate" for "ausgefallen," which wasn't asked for.//You cannot split up a German compound like this. Never. Ever.

36 mins

-> If you’ll read my commentaries carefully you’ll see I’m right. (see links too) Chiefly because is a little idiomatic. Krieg – war mäßig=with moderation; mäßig ausfallen = to turn out moderately [or to be moderate]. Then, to make sense we will say 'turned

disagree

writeaway: This is dead wrong. As Björn says, you can't split kriegsmäßig into Krieg and mäßig. That is nonsensical.

2 hrs

disagree

AllegroTrans: Dead wrong

8 hrs

disagree

Steffen Walter: Nonsense.

9 hrs

-> Anna Wright I'd suggest something like: '[Being at] war put a damper on [celebrating] father's birthday...' or 'put paid to...' for greater emphasis

1 day 7 hrs confidence:

Vaters Geburtstag ist kriegsmäßig ausgefallen. The war put paid to father's usual birthday celebrations.

Explanation:
This rephrasing conveys the message that father's birthday could not go ahead in the usual manner, owing to the war, in a natural idiom. It adds 'usual ... celebrations' for explicitation.

Simpler formulations would be:
- War put paid to celebrating father's birthday.
- War ruled out celebrating father's birthday.

Anna Wright
United Kingdom
Local time: 14:43
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 4

1 day 19 hrs confidence:

fell victim to the/became a casualty of the war

Explanation:
His birthday (celebrations) fell victim to the war/became a casualty of war

Compare with this:
"In 1968 George Washington’s birthday became a casualty of the Uniform Monday Holiday Act, when an act of congress shifted the fixed dates of certain holidays to designated Mondays in order to give federal employees several three day weekends." https://hintsandechoes.wordpress.com/2013/02/22/to-honor-all...

"Dozens of minor celebrations fell victim to the weather." https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2004/jan/02/weather....

Michael Martin, MA
United States
Local time: 09:43
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

German,

English
PRO pts in category: 98

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