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Yasutomo Kanazawa wrote:
From geography class I only remember that Japan is most earthquake country,
because the whole archipelago sits on a seismic plate.
I've learned that, and the other day I watched Shogun tv show, and they also explained why there are so many earthquakes in Japan, and why you built your houses cheap, because it isn't worth investing. The events in the show took place in 1500 year or so. Nice show.
And my hometown Skopje was rebuilt by Japanese architect Kenzo Tange after an earthquake in 1963.
https://www.greyscape.com/how-an-earthquake-brought-kenzo-tange-to-skopje/
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| | | | Zea_Mays 
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TOPIC STARTER | dream destinations... | Dec 7, 2024 |
Gjorgji Apostolovski wrote:
Spain is a great country, but did you saw what happened this year over there?
You know what? The image that came to my mind was not of the flood, but of the protests against overtourism. Same as here.
Imagine living in a region with a beautiful landscape of majestic mountains, green forests and small lakes. With mostly well-preserved medieval town and village centres.
Now imagine that this region has degenerated into a tourist Disneyland. With overnight stays on a par with Venice.
Towns and villages have been and are being increasingly geared to tourism, including the destruction of valuable and beautiful architecture to create postcard and kitsch film backdrops for mainly older 'guests' from Germany and Switzerland.
Imagine a small, idyllic lake that has become so famous thanks to a TV series that it is overrun every year by hundreds of thousands of people who just want to take a selfie with the lake in the background. A special reservation system with barriers and checks had to be set up. And there are several such places in the region.
Imagine stepping out of your front door and having to fight your way through streams of tourists lumbering through alleyways and streets. On footpaths and on the mountain - endless caravans. You've probably seen the pictures of the endless queue of 'climbers' on Mount Everest...
If you use public transport, you often have to wait in long queues and then you may not be able to get on the bus/train/cable car because it is overcrowded. Being late for appointments and work is not uncommon.
More and more long-established shops and businesses are being forced to make way for a uniform hodgepodge of franchise chains, clothes shops and eating establishments.
Between November and Easter, you won't find a single restaurant open in the smaller towns, as everything is geared towards the 'guests'. The locals are left standing.
Imagine that the political decision-makers in this region form a tight-knit alliance with the tourism operators, dairy cow breeders and mass tree growers (you can't call them farmers any more), as well as the building lobby, who are ruining everything.
Tourism advertising, which promotes the region as a place of longing and a desirable second home, and AirBnB are making living space increasingly unaffordable. 250-300,000 euros and more for 40 square metres. Munich property prices.
Imagine the social and environmental impact of this plague, the loss of cultural identity and social tensions, the neglect of the needs of the local population. People here feel increasingly alienated.
There are already protests and demonstrations against mass tourism also here. The slogan 'Tourists go home' is increasingly common on rocks in the mountains.
But so much has already been destroyed that many locals are seriously considering relocating.
PS: The name of the region is South Tyrol (Südtirol, Alto Adige) in Northern Italy. If you like to be hated - book your holidays here.
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Zea_Mays wrote:
Gjorgji Apostolovski wrote:
Spain is a great country, but did you saw what happened this year over there?
You know what? The image that came to my mind was not of the flood, but of the protests against overtourism. Same as here.
Imagine living in a region with a beautiful landscape of majestic mountains, green forests and small lakes. With mostly well-preserved medieval town and village centres.
Now imagine that this region has degenerated into a tourist Disneyland. With overnight stays on a par with Venice.
Towns and villages have been and are being increasingly geared to tourism, including the destruction of valuable and beautiful architecture to create postcard and kitsch film backdrops for mainly older 'guests' from Germany and Switzerland.
Imagine a small, idyllic lake that has become so famous thanks to a TV series that it is overrun every year by hundreds of thousands of people who just want to take a selfie with the lake in the background. A special reservation system with barriers and checks had to be set up. And there are several such places in the region.
Imagine stepping out of your front door and having to fight your way through streams of tourists lumbering through alleyways and streets. On footpaths and on the mountain - endless caravans. You've probably seen the pictures of the endless queue of 'climbers' on Mount Everest...
If you use public transport, you often have to wait in long queues and then you may not be able to get on the bus/train/cable car because it is overcrowded. Being late for appointments and work is not uncommon.
More and more long-established shops and businesses are being forced to make way for a uniform hodgepodge of franchise chains, clothes shops and eating establishments.
Between November and Easter, you won't find a single restaurant open in the smaller towns, as everything is geared towards the 'guests'. The locals are left standing.
Imagine that the political decision-makers in this region form a tight-knit alliance with the tourism operators, dairy cow breeders and mass tree growers (you can't call them farmers any more), as well as the building lobby, who are ruining everything.
Tourism advertising, which promotes the region as a place of longing and a desirable second home, and AirBnB are making living space increasingly unaffordable. 250-300,000 euros and more for 40 square metres. Munich property prices.
Imagine the social and environmental impact of this plague, the loss of cultural identity and social tensions, the neglect of the needs of the local population. People here feel increasingly alienated.
There are already protests and demonstrations against mass tourism also here. The slogan 'Tourists go home' is increasingly common on rocks in the mountains.
But so much has already been destroyed that many locals are seriously considering relocating.
PS: The name of the region is South Tyrol (Südtirol, Alto Adige) in Northern Italy. If you like to be hated - book your holidays here.
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Wow. I didn't know that you locals hate so much tourists.But on the other hand I also hated some tourists in my village in Western Macedonia called Lazaropole. There were some couples on horsetour from Germany, Belgium, Asia, and also some Spaniards on foot were walking in the mountains. Nice people, I chat with some of them on English, but the reason for hating is that after their tours there were wildfires across the whole country and near my village. My village isn't something special, there no more residents over there, it's just a weekend place, especially in summer. We have good cheese. And people from this region are calling themselves Myatzi, a term which I can't still figured out from where it came. Some says is from the ancient macedonian https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mygdonia, some says is Georgian, and some says is slavic term, no one is sure. There is an author called Gjorgji Pulevski from this region, and he published some text on Macedonian language, translated into Albanian and Turkish in the Ottoman era. And both Albanian and Turkish translations are written and published with Cyrillic alphabet.
This region is famous for preserving Christianity during Ottoman era. And we have some poets and film directors from that region, and that's it.
Oh, I forgot, we also have our own flag, which now look like Game of Thrones , but it isn't a new thing, actually it's very old.
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| | | | expressisverbis
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| Not Porto for sure! | Dec 8, 2024 |
The city is not safe anymore.
And yes, we are yet another city suffering from over-tourism and much more...
It's a worldwide issue...
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Zea_Mays
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TOPIC STARTER | Places where you no longer want to live | Dec 8, 2024 |
expressisverbis wrote:
The city is not safe anymore.
And yes, we are yet another city suffering from over-tourism and much more...
It's a worldwide issue...
Yes, unfortunately. The same phenomenon as in Venice, sooner or later cities and regions die as real places to live and become mere bedroom towns for the consuming masses.
So beside recommended places we should add also those to avoid under all circumstances.
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Zea_Mays wrote:
expressisverbis wrote:
The city is not safe anymore.
And yes, we are yet another city suffering from over-tourism and much more...
It's a worldwide issue...
Yes, unfortunately. The same phenomenon as in Venice, sooner or later cities and regions die as real places to live and become mere bedroom towns for the consuming masses.
So beside recommended places we should add also those to avoid under all circumstances.
You are so corny.
| | | | | Recommendation | Dec 9, 2024 |
Zea_Mays wrote:
Or what country or place would you recommend?
I recommend fellow translators to move to North Korea. 😈
| | | | James Salter
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| Quite happy in Spain | Dec 9, 2024 |
I have been in Spain since 1991, first in the northwest and since the turn of the millennium in Madrid. Yes, politics and corruption and all that exist. But you can still get things done as you often face more challenges. It's like when you meet a South African who has designed this or that despite having load shedding, no public transport, etc. Here the electricity works, so does Internet, we have no problem with water (in Madrid at least), and once you have "gone native" as you inevitably end ... See more I have been in Spain since 1991, first in the northwest and since the turn of the millennium in Madrid. Yes, politics and corruption and all that exist. But you can still get things done as you often face more challenges. It's like when you meet a South African who has designed this or that despite having load shedding, no public transport, etc. Here the electricity works, so does Internet, we have no problem with water (in Madrid at least), and once you have "gone native" as you inevitably end up doing after thirty years you just accept all the natural quirks, and accept the good and the bad. I also lived in rural Portugal for a time but couldn't see myself having kids there. When I first arrived in (central) Madrid I was blown away by the cosmopolitan culture (I met a lot of people from the US and Latin Americans from rich families, in particular) and actually felt I had been living a pretty dull life up to that point.
If you asked me what other countries I might still consider now (though I'm going nowhere), I would say Belgium (not the Netherlands, I find the Dutch a bit arrogant), France (particularly, the French Basque Country around Pau), or Australia. Twenty years ago I would never have considered Australia, but I have been listening to Australian podcasters quite a lot recently and have discovered I quite like their sense of humour.
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Gjorgji Apostolovski wrote:
Zea_Mays wrote:
expressisverbis wrote:
The city is not safe anymore.
And yes, we are yet another city suffering from over-tourism and much more...
It's a worldwide issue...
Yes, unfortunately. The same phenomenon as in Venice, sooner or later cities and regions die as real places to live and become mere bedroom towns for the consuming masses.
So beside recommended places we should add also those to avoid under all circumstances.
You are so corny.
I'm just kidding cuz your name is Zea Mays=corn
| | | | | | expressisverbis
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| What is happening... | Jan 5 |
Gjorgji Apostolovski wrote:
What is happening in USA these days?
Americans are coming to Porto... in search of the Portuguese golden dream, but a few of them are leaving.
In the city centre you don't speak ‘Portuense’ or Portuguese any more.
A few months ago I went into a pharmacy and the lady pharmacist asked me what I wanted in English.
An old man asked me if I spoke Portuguese because he had been asking for directions for almost half an hour and they only spoke to him in different languages.
Another time, a friend got into an Uber and the driver only spoke French. It took her longer to get to her destination than usual and it was very difficult for her to communicate in French.
The significant Brazilian community also finds it difficult to communicate with Portuguese people.
In recent years, in Porto we speak any language but our own. There are also hardly any locals living in the city centre, like me.
I'm not complaining, I'm even glad I'm not in the hustle and bustle of a busy city. I enjoy tranquillity and peace 😊
However, if I go to another country, nobody will speak to me in my native language...
This happened only twice to me, but I was dealing with professionals, a tour guide and a friend who worked for a few years with a Portuguese company, and they weren't even European!
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Zea_Mays wrote:
expressisverbis wrote:
And yes, we are yet another city suffering from over-tourism and much more...
It's a worldwide issue...
Yes, unfortunately. The same phenomenon as in Venice, sooner or later cities and regions die as real places to live and become mere bedroom towns for the consuming masses.
Add Yogyakarta to the list. It usually takes me about 20 minutes to go to my church. But last night, the trip took 80 minutes. 
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Tom in London
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TOPIC STARTER | Tom in London
Ujedinjeno Kraljevstvo
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| Tourism is killing the cities | Jan 27 |
I think I got away from Florence just in time. When I first took up residence there more than 30 years ago, there were still shops in the city centre where you could find pots and pans, etc. They were long gone by the time I decided to leave about 20 years later; the whole place was being strangled by the worst kind of low-grade mass tourism consisting of the kind of people who only want to see the most clichéd things.
The economy of the whole city had been perverted into meeting ... See more I think I got away from Florence just in time. When I first took up residence there more than 30 years ago, there were still shops in the city centre where you could find pots and pans, etc. They were long gone by the time I decided to leave about 20 years later; the whole place was being strangled by the worst kind of low-grade mass tourism consisting of the kind of people who only want to see the most clichéd things.
The economy of the whole city had been perverted into meeting the needs of those tourists - leading to a tremendous drop in the standards of restaurants etc. and making it impossible to even get through the door of the most important museums and galleries. Everything about Florence had become a simulacrum of itself.
I once heard a newly arrived American tourist asking at the check-in desk of a pensione "Where's David?" I wondered what on earth she meant until it slowly dawned on me that she only knew one thing about Florence and indeed, only one part of that thing (the part that is picked out as a postcard illustration). On another occasion I was stopped in the street by some Irish people who asked me "Is this Florence or Rome?"
But the worst of all are the entitled anglophones who buy all the homes and don't bother to learn Italian, and have no Italian friends.... I'd better stop here.
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