Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
Délégations de Service Public
English translation:
running public service contracts/concessions
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Conor McAuley
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Délégations de Service Public
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"Un acteur majeur dans le domaine des Partenariats Public-Privé et des Délégations de Service Public".
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running public service contracts/contracting out
Something like this: they provide a service on behalf of a government/local authority (i.e. has been contracted out).
I heard the phrase loads of times during the transport workers' strike in Marseille a few months ago; the strike was about awarding the operating franchise for the new tramway to a private company (Connex, I think).
I heard the phrase loads of times during the transport workers' strike in Marseille a few months ago; the strike was about awarding the operating franchise for the new tramway to a private company (Connex, I think).
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Comment: "Difficult one this, as three answers were on the ball, but I like this jargon-busting version. I think "concession" must be in there somewhere. Alex's link was very helpful with the definition: "Dès sa création le service public des chemins de fer a été délégué par l'État à des sociétés commerciales liées à lui par des contrats de concession"."
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civil service representatives
or Local Authorities representatives depending on the context
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Mariusz Kuklinski
: Delegation in France is usually an institution, on the national, local or sectoral level, like: Délégation Générale à la Langue Française or Délégation des Barreaux de France, in other words - it is an institutional body, NOT representatives
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public service delegations
I know, shock horror but I had this just the other day and was inspired to go to Eurodicautom, which is where you will find the above.
In fact, my sentence looked much like yours - are we doing the same text (railway)?
I don't like the translation but it seems that it is Eurospeak and goes with PPP = public private partnerships
In fact, my sentence looked much like yours - are we doing the same text (railway)?
I don't like the translation but it seems that it is Eurospeak and goes with PPP = public private partnerships
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Mariusz Kuklinski
: I looked at the reference provided by Bourth which explains everything in details, indeed. I think, however, that this needs a different phrase, like e.g. transferred powers
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yes but you happen to be wrong in this instance - I have impeccable references
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Jocelyne S
: Indeed horror, but I too have come across this recently.
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df49f (X)
: public service delegation contract is 100% correct, and used also as is in UK and US to refer to this French-style kind of contracts
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La Classe
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concession-type contracts
For everything you ever wanted to know about Délégations de Services Publics but were afraid to ask, dare you look at http://membres.lycos.fr/cyberbobline/18.html ??
The most easily "translatable" of the different kinds of "délégation" is the concession scheme, so I think a convenient and immediately understandable solution is to speak of "concession-type arrangements/contracts", or "concession contracts, etc.".
Of course you may feel obliged to go with Eurospeak. But look what happened to Latin when Rome let bloody foreigners start messing about with it.
The most easily "translatable" of the different kinds of "délégation" is the concession scheme, so I think a convenient and immediately understandable solution is to speak of "concession-type arrangements/contracts", or "concession contracts, etc.".
Of course you may feel obliged to go with Eurospeak. But look what happened to Latin when Rome let bloody foreigners start messing about with it.
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Mariusz Kuklinski
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: you are surely right but much as I hate Europeak I don't feel I can stop it single-handed or nearly
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under transferred powers of public authorities
...une technique par laquelle la gestion d'un service public est confiée notamment, à un organisme de droit privé...
With thanks to Bourth who provided the source of the above quotation
With thanks to Bourth who provided the source of the above quotation
Discussion
I think the problem arises from different conceptions of what should be run by the state and what the private sector can do more effectively (without taking sides).