Feb 11, 2014 07:56
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Catalan term

principal 3º

Catalan to English Other General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters Street address
Gran Via de les Corts Catalanes 539 principal 3º
Mallorca, 152 principal 2
Mallorca, 152 entlo 2

Could anyone tell me what the "principal x" in the addresses above mean??? Thanks!

Discussion

Mar Brotons Feb 11, 2014:
Yes, by 1st floor I mean the one above the ground level. In Spain, most people live in blocks of flats rather than houses, particularly in the big cities. The streets you mention are all located in the Eixample district in Barcelona and that's all flats. So in "Mallorca, 152, 3º 2ª" Mallorca is the street name, 152 is the house number (a block of flats), 3º is the 3rd floor (although, as we saw with "principal and entresuelo" it might actually be the 5th floor!) and 2º is the door number, as there can a be a number of flats per floor.

oceano (asker) Feb 11, 2014:
Thanks a lot! That's really helpful. Actually I am supposed to translate the address into Chinese:) By the way, when you said first floor, you meant the floor above ground level (according to British convention), right? If principal refers to floor, then 3º would be the room number?? I also came across this one "Mallorca, 152 3º 2ª" which puzzles me. Obviously, 152 is the street number. But what about 3º and 2ª??? They could be typos, though.

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principal 3º

Obviously, since they are addresses, they must be left untranslated.

These are adresses in Barcelona. And both principal and etlo (entresuelo) refer to floors. Physically, the entresuelo would be the 1st floor, and the principal would be the 2nd floor.

If a friend in Barcelona tells you they live in "el segundo piso sin ascensor", you may find yourself having to go up 4 floor levels to get to their flat (it has happened to me!).

It is called "Principal" because it was the best flat back in the day. They have higher ceilings and are generally bigger flats.
Peer comment(s):

agree Tony Isaac : I've even come across "principal bis"! (2nd real floor). The "entresuelo/principal" convention seems to be disappearing in new buildings.
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That's true, Tony. Only to be found in old buildings, really. :-)
agree Andy Watkinson
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Thank you!
agree Helena Chavarria
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¡Gracias!
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2nd floor (only if MUST translate address)

In Catalunya, historically many of the homes in the neighbourhood of Eixample had a family business on the ground (UK English) or first floor (US English). Then on the next floor lived the employees, on the "Entresuelo" or Entlo. On the next floor lived the owners of the business, in the best and biggest apartment, as someone has commented.
Thus, the address means that the apartment is on the Principal floor (most likely to be 2nd floor (UK English).

In an address such as you mentioned eg. C. Mallorca 571 3º 2ª :These are not typos!
the number is the building number on the street Mallorca. The 3º is the 3rd floor and the 2ª is the second door (here the flat numbers correspond to a door number 1, 2, 3, etc on each floor. (Sometimes the door is a letter eg. where I live Av. Garraf 14. 2º C
Hope that helps!
Example sentence:

2nd floor

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