Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Latin term or phrase:
Ante Bellum
English translation:
Before the war (e.g. the Civil War in the USA)
Added to glossary by
Pnina
Nov 23, 2004 21:47
19 yrs ago
Latin term
Ante Bellum
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"Kezi's Ante Bellum Fashion Collection. Three 1860's Fashion Patterns: Ante Bellum Undergarments. Ante Bellum Ball Gown. Ante Bellum Day Dress."
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Proposed translations
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| 4 +6 | Ante Bellum |
swisstell
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| 4 +5 | Ante Bellum/ pre-war |
David Hollywood
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| 4 +3 | pre war |
Ewa Nowicka
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| 4 +1 | before the (Civil) war |
Vicky Papaprodromou
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Proposed translations
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4 mins
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Ante Bellum
leave it untranslated. It is used here in the US to describe a period just before the Civil wAR (1861-65) - and concerns not only Ante Bellum Dresses but Ante Bellum Architecture (Plantation Houses, some of which you still can find particularly in Louisiana or Georgia).
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Ante-Bellum Clothing - [ Diese Seite übersetzen ]
..::: Welcome to the Offical Ante-Bellum Clothing Website :::..
Click logo to Enter click logo to enter.
www.ante-bellum.com/ - 2k - Im Cache - Ähnliche Seiten
IE Lowery (Irving E.), b. 1850 Life on the Old Plantation in Ante ... - [ Diese Seite übersetzen ]
Life on the Old Plantation in Ante-Bellum Days, or, A Story Based on Facts. by IE
Lowery (Irving E.), b. 1850. Documenting the American South Logo. ...
docsouth.unc.edu/lowery/menu.html - 8k - 22. Nov. 2004
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Ante-Bellum Clothing - [ Diese Seite übersetzen ]
..::: Welcome to the Offical Ante-Bellum Clothing Website :::..
Click logo to Enter click logo to enter.
www.ante-bellum.com/ - 2k - Im Cache - Ähnliche Seiten
IE Lowery (Irving E.), b. 1850 Life on the Old Plantation in Ante ... - [ Diese Seite übersetzen ]
Life on the Old Plantation in Ante-Bellum Days, or, A Story Based on Facts. by IE
Lowery (Irving E.), b. 1850. Documenting the American South Logo. ...
docsouth.unc.edu/lowery/menu.html - 8k - 22. Nov. 2004
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you very much for your answer and your comprehensive explanation. I am thanking Vicky for the useful links."
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4 mins
Ewa Nowicka
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Translation is a challenge!
Native in: Polish 
Works in: English to Polish, Polish to English, English, and 1 more.
pre war
from before the Civil War here
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Peer comment(s):
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Vicky Papaprodromou
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thanks a lot Vicky :)
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lim0nka
: right, but in this case I would leave it untranslated
29 mins
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yes, I wouldn't translate that either. It's just for explanation. And still, it would depend on the target language. thanks! :)
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Joseph Brazauskas
: I wouldn't translate it, either.
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thanks Joseph :)
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3 mins
David Hollywood
Native in English
worked for int. orgs (IMF, OAS, IDB)
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, German to English
Related KudoZ points
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4
Ante Bellum/ pre-war
:)
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Note added at 4 mins (2004-11-23 21:52:55 GMT)
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by Kenneth M. Stampp. BACKGROUND. This is a long and boring book which looks at
slavery (the Peculiar Institution) in the Ante-Bellum (Latin for Pre-War) South. ...
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by Kenneth M. Stampp. BACKGROUND. This is a long and boring book which looks at
slavery (the Peculiar Institution) in the Ante-Bellum (Latin for Pre-War) South. ...
Peer comment(s):
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swisstell
: not good enough, David, unless you specify the US Civil War. Of course in strict translation it is "before hostilities" but this clearly refers to a given period in the US history
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take your point but my primary suggestion is Ante Bellum which is clear :)
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verbis
: Ante Bellum, I would as well leave it untranslated for the sake of marketing :)
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karmenu attard (X)
: I also would not translate it
4 hrs
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tappi_k
: leave it as it is
5 hrs
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Joseph Brazauskas
: SwissTell makes a good point. There have been, and still remain, thousands of civil wars amongst thousands of peoples besides the American.
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true but the rendering here is Ante Bellum (unqualified). My reference indicates that we're talking about the US but this won't appear in the translation (and doesn't need to be included in my view). Interesting debate anyway :)
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Kim Metzger
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8 mins
Vicky Papaprodromou
Greece
Greece
Specializes in field
Greece
hellenic wings in translation
Native in: Greek
Works in: English to Greek, Greek to English
before the (Civil) war
literal meaning = before (the) war
http://www.sacklunch.net/Latin/A/antebellum.html
The impact of the ante-bellum southern plantations on the lives of their black and white inhabitants, as well as on the political, economic, and cultural life of the South as a whole, is one of the most fascinating and controversial problems of present-day American historical research. Depending upon the labor of slaves who constituted the great majority of the American black population, the plantations were both homes and business enterprises for a white, southern elite. They were the largest, the most commercialized, and on the whole, the most efficient and specialized agricultural enterprises of their day, producing the bulk of the South's staple crops of tobacco, cotton, sugar, rice, and hemp. Their proprietors were entrepreneurs who aspired to and sometimes, after a generation or two, achieved the status of a cultivated landed aristocracy. Many distinguished themselves not only in agriculture but in the professions, in the military, in government service, and in scientific and cultural endeavors.
http://www.lexisnexis.com/academic/guides/southern_hist/plan...
Ante Bellum South
A Southern ideology -based on aristocracy- justified slavery. Many (crazy) explanations were put forward like: "the African race is biologically inferior" or "physically and mentally under-developped". Through slavery, they could adjust to a better kind of life, be taught new morals and the "true religion". All that was part of the Southern ideology: "some people must work and sweat to provide those in charge with leadership". The Southern society is hedonistic when the North advocates the puritan ethic (moral - virtue - hard work, according to the Bible).
http://www.skyminds.net/civilization/10_ante-bellum_south.ph...
http://www.sacklunch.net/Latin/A/antebellum.html
The impact of the ante-bellum southern plantations on the lives of their black and white inhabitants, as well as on the political, economic, and cultural life of the South as a whole, is one of the most fascinating and controversial problems of present-day American historical research. Depending upon the labor of slaves who constituted the great majority of the American black population, the plantations were both homes and business enterprises for a white, southern elite. They were the largest, the most commercialized, and on the whole, the most efficient and specialized agricultural enterprises of their day, producing the bulk of the South's staple crops of tobacco, cotton, sugar, rice, and hemp. Their proprietors were entrepreneurs who aspired to and sometimes, after a generation or two, achieved the status of a cultivated landed aristocracy. Many distinguished themselves not only in agriculture but in the professions, in the military, in government service, and in scientific and cultural endeavors.
http://www.lexisnexis.com/academic/guides/southern_hist/plan...
Ante Bellum South
A Southern ideology -based on aristocracy- justified slavery. Many (crazy) explanations were put forward like: "the African race is biologically inferior" or "physically and mentally under-developped". Through slavery, they could adjust to a better kind of life, be taught new morals and the "true religion". All that was part of the Southern ideology: "some people must work and sweat to provide those in charge with leadership". The Southern society is hedonistic when the North advocates the puritan ethic (moral - virtue - hard work, according to the Bible).
http://www.skyminds.net/civilization/10_ante-bellum_south.ph...
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