Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Italian term or phrase:
preciso che = provided that?
English translation:
(It should be noted) / 0
Italian term
United Kingdom
Masters in Science and Diploma in Legal
Native in: English (Variants: UK, British) 
Works in: Italian to English, English to Italian
preciso che = provided that?
"as long as?"
"provided that?"
Kindly explain the origin of "preciso che". Is it a perversion of "avendo precisato che"?
| 3 +4 | (It should be noted) / 0 |
martini
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| 4 +4 | I would like to point out |
Lisa Jane
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| 3 +2 | 1. the point being that 2. (leg.) PROVIDED ALWAYS THAT |
Adrian MM.
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Apr 5, 2023 08:33: martini Created KOG entry
Non-PRO (1): Tom in London
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Proposed translations
(It should be noted) / 0
omettere "preciso che"
sostituire con "precisando che"
LIBERATORIE-MEG-1.pdf - Istituto Massimo
istitutomassimo.it
https://www.istitutomassimo.it › 2022/09 › LIB...
revocarla o opporti alla diffusione dei tuoi dati, gli stessi non saranno più diffusi dal Titolare. La revoca avrà effetto a
Informativa completa Utenti CORSI - APP CISL LOMBARDIA
cisl.it
https://app.lombardia.cisl.it › api › files › gdpr....
dati, gli stessi non saranno più diffusi dal Titolare precisando che la revoca avrà effetto a decorrere dalla data di ricezione della richiesta.
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philgoddard
: I'm agreeing with "leave it out". "It should be noted that" doesn't add anything to the sentence.
22 mins
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| agree |
Andrew Bramhall
: Agree with Martini an Phil;
1 hr
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| agree |
Maria G. Grassi, MA AITI
: This. With a full stop beforehand.
3 hrs
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| agree |
Lisa Jane
: Yes, this could be a formal option I thought of myself
3 hrs
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I would like to point out
You could also start the phrase with: Please note that...
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Note added at 8 mins (2023-03-22 09:27:40 GMT)
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It seems punctuation is missing in the Italian. There should be a full stop after Titolare.
| Very unlikely to be a missing punctuation, and even less likely to be "I" who is writing. Neither would fit the type or content of the document. |
| agree |
Maria G. Grassi, MA AITI
: I can’t make it make sense in Italian either. There must be a full stop missing after Titolare, indeed.
13 mins
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Thanks
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writeaway
1 hr
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Thanks
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Lara Barnett
: Possibly too.
2 hrs
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| agree |
Susanna Martoni
: Yes, possibly too. With a fullstop
3 hrs
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| disagree |
philgoddard
: This is a data protection statement (albeit a friendly one that says "tu"), so your translation is inappropriate in my opinion.
3 hrs
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| agree |
Andrew Bramhall
: The answer doesn't mention an object, so don't understand PG's disagree.
6 hrs
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Austria
Retd.T&I, Barrister & Austro-Advokat
Native in: English (Variants: Scottish, British) 
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, French to English, and 5 more.
1. the point being that 2. (leg.) PROVIDED ALWAYS THAT
Otherwise, there is surprisingly no entry for such usage in Collins Sansoni.
The first ProZ weblinked answer dodges the issue altogether: Preciso che questo bagaglio e del mio amico Roberto > The baggage belongs to Roberto.
NB as an English legal drafting technique in contracts included leases, PROVIDED ALWAYS THAT is capitalised *and* underlined. So there's no point complaining that such is 'shouting'.
ProZ: Provided always and it is hereby agreed as follows Italian translation: si stipula e si conviene quanto segue
PROVIDED ALWAYS THAT. The Company shall not be liable under this Policy for :
| I am liking "Etant précisé que". And *there was me* being prejudiced against translators knowing too many source languages for their own good! |
| agree |
Susanna Martoni
: "the point being that" or "since"; "preciso che" (here, "dal momento che") is actually a peculiar form of Italian; never heard but the suggested translation makes absolutely sense
8 mins
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| agree |
Lara Barnett
: Possibly.
1 hr
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| neutral |
philgoddard
: You're right that this has been asked before. In your first link, the answerer ignores "preciso che" without explaining why. I suspect they may be right to do so. But "the point being that" is too informal, and "provided always that" is simply wrong.
3 hrs
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Discussion
If Adrian is right, and the idea is "sia preciso che", it's just legal verbiage that can be omitted, as it was in the answer to the previous question.