Glossary entry (derived from question below)
français term or phrase:
épouse s.d.b.
anglais translation:
wife of X with the regime of separation of matrimonial property
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dmesnier
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français term
épouse s.d.b.
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abbreviation
Hi, I'd like to know if anyone can shed some light on this abbreviation. It appears in a Swiss "Acte de partage" between the survivors who are inheriting the deceased condominium. I can find no reference for this anywhere. It appears as follows. Thanks for your help!
Les héritiers de feu XXXXX, fille de XXXX, épouse s.d.b. de M. YYYYYY, née le mm.dd.yyyy, décédée le mm.dd.yyyy, de dernier domicile à WWWW, à savoir :
Les héritiers de feu XXXXX, fille de XXXX, épouse s.d.b. de M. YYYYYY, née le mm.dd.yyyy, décédée le mm.dd.yyyy, de dernier domicile à WWWW, à savoir :
Proposed translations
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| 3 +6 | wife of X with the regime of separation of matrimonial property |
Mpoma
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| 5 +3 | separation of property |
Jennifer Levey
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| 4 +1 | separation as to property |
Charles R.
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Proposed translations
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wife of X with the regime of separation of matrimonial property
... or some such formula.
It's not optional to spell out the fact what exactly the property it is which is "separate". Unless you put it in context, however much of a mouthful this is for a 3-letter acronym, you'll confuse more than enlighten.
It's not optional to spell out the fact what exactly the property it is which is "separate". Unless you put it in context, however much of a mouthful this is for a 3-letter acronym, you'll confuse more than enlighten.
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Comment: "thanks for your help!"
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Charles R.
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separation as to property
"La séparation de biens est un régime matrimonial et un régime d'union civile."
https://www.justice.gouv.qc.ca/couple-et-famille/mariage-uni...
"Separation as to property is both a matrimonial regime and a civil union regime. It must be recorded in a contract made before a notary."
https://www.justice.gouv.qc.ca/en/couples-and-families/marri...
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Note added at 8 mins (2023-03-01 14:21:49 GMT)
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s.d.b. = sous le régime de la séparation de biens
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Note added at 24 mins (2023-03-01 14:38:02 GMT)
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"Under separation of property" works too.
"Generally, couples marry into some form of community of property by default, or instead contract out under separation of property or some other regime through a prenuptial agreement passed before a civil-law notary or other public officer solemnizing the marriage. Many civil law jurisdictions also have other established systems of dividing property, such as separation of property and the participation regime that spouses can decide to adopt."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrimonial_regime
https://www.justice.gouv.qc.ca/couple-et-famille/mariage-uni...
"Separation as to property is both a matrimonial regime and a civil union regime. It must be recorded in a contract made before a notary."
https://www.justice.gouv.qc.ca/en/couples-and-families/marri...
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Note added at 8 mins (2023-03-01 14:21:49 GMT)
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s.d.b. = sous le régime de la séparation de biens
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Note added at 24 mins (2023-03-01 14:38:02 GMT)
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"Under separation of property" works too.
"Generally, couples marry into some form of community of property by default, or instead contract out under separation of property or some other regime through a prenuptial agreement passed before a civil-law notary or other public officer solemnizing the marriage. Many civil law jurisdictions also have other established systems of dividing property, such as separation of property and the participation regime that spouses can decide to adopt."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrimonial_regime
Peer comment(s):
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Jennifer Levey
: Asker gave enough context to enable us to focus on the legislation of Switzerland rather than Quebec.//Note also that your Wiki ref. is misleading with regard to the regimes recognised under Swiss law.
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Under separation of property is in my answer too. And I added it before you answered. Besides, the asker was mostly looking for a hint as to the meaning of the abbreviation. / The asker was not asking for a lecture on matrimonial regimes in Switzerland.
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philgoddard
: "With separate property", maybe. I don't understand why Jennifer has submitted a separate answer.
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Thank you Phil!
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Jennifer Levey
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separation of property
s.d.b. means séparation de biens.
The expression used in the official English version of the Swiss Civil Code is 'separation of property'.
See Art. 185 here: https://www.fedlex.admin.ch/eli/cc/24/233_245_233/en
and here:
https://www.fedlex.admin.ch/eli/cc/24/233_245_233/fr
The expression used in the official English version of the Swiss Civil Code is 'separation of property'.
See Art. 185 here: https://www.fedlex.admin.ch/eli/cc/24/233_245_233/en
and here:
https://www.fedlex.admin.ch/eli/cc/24/233_245_233/fr
Peer comment(s):
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AllegroTrans
: Yes, but the English version of the Swiss Civil Code is not "official" as English is not an official language of Switzerland; look at the rider on the site
9 minutes
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| neutral |
philgoddard
: Allegro is right. This is just one translator's opinion, not the edict of the Swiss government.
36 minutes
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| agree |
Tony M
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| agree |
Anastasia Kalantzi
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