Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
ehemännliche Ermächtigung
English translation:
husband\'s authorization
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Kaportnoy
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German term
ehemännliche Ermächtigung
German to English
Social Sciences
History
1872 power of attorney
Vor mir dem Grossherzoglich Badischen Gerichts Notar Ludwig Greiffenberg wohnhaft zu Oberkirch und angestellt für den Amtsgerichtsbezirk Oberkirch erschienen heute:
Christian Oberle Bürger u. Landwirth von Wolfhag u. dessen Ehefrau Maria Anna geb. Sauer beide volljährig, diese mit ehemännlicher Ermächtigung handelnd:
This is a power of attorney, and the only definition I can find for "ehemännliche Ermächtigung" seems to be the rights of the husband in marriage, which I don't think makes sense here as they are authorizing a friend to act as their representative when they emigrate to America (1872). Any ideas?
Christian Oberle Bürger u. Landwirth von Wolfhag u. dessen Ehefrau Maria Anna geb. Sauer beide volljährig, diese mit ehemännlicher Ermächtigung handelnd:
This is a power of attorney, and the only definition I can find for "ehemännliche Ermächtigung" seems to be the rights of the husband in marriage, which I don't think makes sense here as they are authorizing a friend to act as their representative when they emigrate to America (1872). Any ideas?
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 | husband's authorization |
Emal Ghamsharick
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| 3 | husband's approval |
David Hollywood
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| 3 -1 | spousal permission/agreement/authorization |
gangels (X)
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Proposed translations
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Emal Ghamsharick
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husband's authorization
"authorization letter" is a common term for Vollmacht (which is often mistranslated as "power of attorney").
"Ermächtigung" seems to be a dated term for what today is known as "Vollmacht".
"Ermächtigung" seems to be a dated term for what today is known as "Vollmacht".
Example sentence:
"Both are of legal age. The wife is acting with the husband's authorization."
Note from asker:
| Oh so it would be an authorization letter, and not a power of attorney? I am not very familiar with what an actual power of attorney means, but when I looked it up it seemed to fit "the authority to act for another person in specified or all legal or financial matters." |
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David Hollywood
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48
husband's approval
in this macho environment would be ok
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sadly "ehemännlich" gives rights to the husband so poor wives
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here's a classic example:
www.telegraph.co.uk › ... › World News › Middle East › Kuwait -
22 oct. 2009 - Kuwait's highest court has granted women the right to obtain a passport without their husband's approval, in the latest advancement for women's rights in the oil-rich emirate.
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bravo ladies
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here's another instance: www.stopblablacam.com/.../1112-1281-a-bassa-a-woman-had-to-...
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Nowadays, a married woman can decide to shave her hair like Manu Dibango without even asking her husband. She can even decide to tint them if she wants to. But, it was different in the past. “Indeed, we bassa'a women had to seek our husband's approval before cutting our hair”, Monique Ngomb, a 73-year old widow, ...
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would you want to be a woman in this environment? well ... don't think so....
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Note added at 1 hr (2018-02-08 21:27:28 GMT)
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despite the context this is ok
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Note added at 1 hr (2018-02-08 21:28:52 GMT)
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what else could it mean
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Note added at 54 mins (2018-02-08 20:24:00 GMT)
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sadly "ehemännlich" gives rights to the husband so poor wives
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Note added at 56 mins (2018-02-08 20:26:50 GMT)
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here's a classic example:
www.telegraph.co.uk › ... › World News › Middle East › Kuwait -
22 oct. 2009 - Kuwait's highest court has granted women the right to obtain a passport without their husband's approval, in the latest advancement for women's rights in the oil-rich emirate.
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Note added at 58 mins (2018-02-08 20:28:13 GMT)
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bravo ladies
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Note added at 1 hr (2018-02-08 20:30:56 GMT)
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here's another instance: www.stopblablacam.com/.../1112-1281-a-bassa-a-woman-had-to-...
Traducir esta página
Nowadays, a married woman can decide to shave her hair like Manu Dibango without even asking her husband. She can even decide to tint them if she wants to. But, it was different in the past. “Indeed, we bassa'a women had to seek our husband's approval before cutting our hair”, Monique Ngomb, a 73-year old widow, ...
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Note added at 1 hr (2018-02-08 20:32:26 GMT)
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would you want to be a woman in this environment? well ... don't think so....
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Note added at 1 hr (2018-02-08 21:27:28 GMT)
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despite the context this is ok
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Note added at 1 hr (2018-02-08 21:28:52 GMT)
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what else could it mean
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1 day 34 mins
spousal permission/agreement/authorization
.....both adults and the latter acting with spousal...etc
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Lancashireman
: Ehegatte (spouse) and Ehemann (husband) sind zwei verschiedene Sachen. See https://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/business_commer...
2 days 2 hrs
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Discussion
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Before you're going to be confused entirely, please see here for the difference between a letter of authorization and a power of attorney:
http://info.legalzoom.com/differences-between-power-attorney...
Don't agree with Emal's explanation. There's also a limited power of attorney:
http://info.legalzoom.com/definition-limited-power-attorney-...
You'll find both, only separated by a slash:
http://cdn.unite529.com/jcdn/files/RIA/pdfs/lpoa.pdf
Also: special power of attorney
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/special-power-attorney....
Please note the difference between an attorney-in-fact and an attorney-at-law. Cf
http://www.fingyan.com/power-of-attorney-vs-letter-of-author...
https://formswift.com/special-power-of-attorney
In your case, this seems much more complicated than a simple letter of authorization.
I get the feeling that two issues are being conflated here and it has little to do with acting as the representative for a friend. May be as simple as "with the husband's consent": https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/44-45/21/enacted?v...