HERBET Abel Dec 12, 2016:

Barbu mens all that

Tony M Dec 11, 2016:

@ Debora Yes, absolutely! That's what I've been saying all along: 'toiles tendues' etc. are a subset of 'all staging' — but it would NOT be accurate to say that 'toiles tendues' etc. comprise the WHOLE of what 'staging' encompasses.

Debora Blake Dec 11, 2016:

Pictures Il s'agit bien d'installations scéniques qui peuvent comporter des toiles tendues.
http://www.esglobalsolutions.com/global-staging/
http://www.esglobalsolutions.com/canopy-stage/
http://www.esglobalsolutions.com/lite-tower-stage/

Tony M Dec 11, 2016:

@ Asker I have never had any doubt what it is, and hence I stand by my answer submitted below.

Elisabeth Toda-v.Galen (asker) Dec 11, 2016:

Ah, typos Well that could be a typo, that does make more sens, but doesn't make my work easier. I can't send you the PDF, verboten. All I need is the French term for this activity. Now you know what it is about, do you have an idea of the translation?

Tony M Dec 11, 2016:

@ Asker Feel free to send me the PDF privately if you wish.

You see, that sentence you find unclear is perfectly understandable to me! Apart from the fact there looks to be a typo with 'i' for 'as', it otherwise makes total sense. I certainly wouldn't say poor EN — just typical jargon used between us engineers.
Regardless of the ultimate use, the principles of 'staging' are pretty similar, at least at this sort of generalized, basic level.

Elisabeth Toda-v.Galen (asker) Dec 11, 2016:

And... this is not necessarily about the entertainment business, it can be part of a sport event as well, or a political meeting, or whatever, as long as it is big

Elisabeth Toda-v.Galen (asker) Dec 11, 2016:

Not really detailed I just said the subject was "abris temporaires en structures métalliques et toiles tendus, qu'on trouve pour couvrir une scène, un événement temporaire à l'extérieur par exemple" that's all. I am translating from a PDF, so I'm not going to copy everything it says but the sentences are sometimes incomprehensible..., like this one : the roof panels are inserted into metal extrusion which spans the width of the construction, being constructed as part of the cross trusses in any construction is determined by the length of the construction. The erros/typos are not mine. See, clear as muddy water...
I did a lot of research before asking the question ofcourse but it is the document itself that gives me the clues of what I say, the towers, the fabric, the cross trusses, pulled into tension etc. They also talk about a jumbotron.

Tony M Dec 11, 2016:

@ Asker Sorry, but I am confused by your comments: you started out by giving us a very detailed descxription (which I disagree with) about the meaning of 'staging', and you talk as if you have seen pictures of it and/or it is described in detail in your document; now you say there is very little information about it and no pictures?
So where did you get your initial information from, then? Was this in fact from external research? In which case, I would completely understand that you may be extrapolating a little too far into the general situation...
Perhaps you could clarify exactly everything your document says about the 'staging' they do, and which part of your definition simply comes from your own research elsewhere?
From the extract of text given, I don't see anything to cast doubt on the quality of the EN used.

Elisabeth Toda-v.Galen (asker) Dec 10, 2016:

The text doesn't say that much... It is just a matter of fact mention of what they do, in very poor English as well, so I can't say anything more. I don't have pictures either.
The whole document is about health and safety, and the activities are just mentioned on the side, with the particular H&S policy that goes with each activity. That is why there isn't anymore context of the activity itself. The public of this document knows the activity, as they will be the employees. There is only one part that gives the particulars of such a construction. Staging is used in this part, as well as beneath the name of the Director of the activity in a table.

Tony M Dec 10, 2016:

@ Asker Yes, but what you say is at odds with the use of the EN term. The 'shelter' aspect is only one small part of the whole activity that is 'staging' — and in fact, if you are getting down to the specifics of fabric stretched over metal structures, then it does indeed look more like a descrption of the physical article itself.
But in more than 40 years' involvement in the theatre, showbusiness, and touring shows (with 2 members of my family still working in the biz), I can honestly say I have NEVER ONCE heard the term used to refer exclusively to canopy and similar structures.

It all depends a bit what you are actually basing your assessment on; if, for example, there is a photo of some of these structures, with a caption ike "here is a photo of us working on the staging", then obviously that just means one bit of it — probably a more photogenic bit, compared to just a boring old platform. But if the legend said "Here is the cloth-coverd staging we are working on", then it would clearly (and extremely oddly!) seem to be referring to the actual structure.

Feel free to contact me privately if you would like to discuss in greater detail...

Elisabeth Toda-v.Galen (asker) Dec 10, 2016:

Spot on Tony! It is the activity I'm looking for, the activity of building towers, metal structures linking the towers, covered by fabric. I thought that "staging" was clear enough to indicate what I was looking for, after all staging is a verb, not a noun... and let's be serious, I know what a barnum or a tente de réception is... and I indicated clearly that I meant something big ;-)

HERBET Abel Dec 10, 2016:

Structure de scène

Tony M Dec 10, 2016:

@ Asker Please note, your definition is actually still not quite spot on!

In this sort of context, 'staging' has two fairly distinct meanings — and it's not clear from your context which is meant; it may even be that the writer was playing on that very ambiguity!

1) In a wider sense, 'staging' means 'the action of getting something onto a stage' — as such, it starts off with 'mise en scène', but by the time we get to a concert tour, it is referring of course to the action of setting up EVERYTHING to do with the show (which may include your 'canopy', but is by no means limited to it!)

3) In a more concrete sense, 'staging' is the actual 'platform' used to create the stage — I don't know if this is 'estrade' or if there is some more specific word used in industry jargon.

Now as you list also includes the '-ing' action of 'trucking' and the 'logistics', it's not unreasonable to assume they mean the first meaning of 'staging' — and you might easily find another '-ing', 'rigging' associated with all this.

HOWEVER, very often these actions are of course going to include the provision, erection, and dismantling of the actual physical 'staging as well — whence the ambiguity!