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Mar 11, 2015 17:48
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Dutch term

Kenteken

Non-PRO Dutch to English Bus/Financial Insurance Life insurance policy
De term staat in het hoofd van een serie kolommen, o.a. Polisnummer - Omschrijving - Kenteken. Onder 'Kenteken' staat 'geroyeerd'.
Proposed translations (English)
4 policy status
3 Reference or Designation

Discussion

Michael Beijer Mar 12, 2015:
@Tina: If you can't figure out what it means, maybe "Reference" is the safest option…
Tina Vonhof (X) (asker) Mar 12, 2015:
Thank you for thinking along, everyone. The client is running out of time and we'll have to give up searching at this point.
Tina Vonhof (X) (asker) Mar 12, 2015:
@Evgeny It's not a form, it's part of the insurer's database.
Richard Purdom Mar 11, 2015:
hardly non-PRO, so I removed my wrong answer
Michael Beijer Mar 11, 2015:
@Textpertise: Yeah, I found that one too.

And these:

https://www.volmachtbeheer.nl/modules/bibliotheek/download.a...
https://www.volmachtbeheer.nl/modules/bibliotheek/download.a...

Does indeed look like some kind of internal ref along the lines of:

"Status van de polis --- status --- an (code) --- 10 --- L = lopend, O = opgeschort, R = geroyeerd"

as I said above: "state" (or maybe even better "policy status") ("Status van de polis")
Textpertise Mar 11, 2015:
In context of due diligence on new applicant? Just a thought. This may be an entry in a database of some kind. Before accepting a new applicant for a policy, a check is made as to whether this applicant is known to the insurance company and currently has any other policies or may have had any other policies in the past. If the applicant has had an insurance policy of any type cancelled for some reason, e.g. failure to pay a premium, then this would appear in the system with some type of identification number (kenteken) and the annotation that the policy was cancelled. Such an entry will raise a red flag vis-a-vis accepting this applicant for another policy with that company. See, for example http://tinyurl.com/nnbax8b and search geroyeerd. The manual is talking about their SAP system. I know it is not life insurance but the same principle would apply.
Evgeny Artemov (X) Mar 11, 2015:
@Mike Dutch event insurance forms mention vehicles (and yes, Polisnummers - Omschrijvingen - Kentekens) as well, so I'd love to see that life form before guessing :-)
Michael Beijer Mar 11, 2015:
or ... maybe it means reference, but, since this particular policy was/is cancelled, there is no ref#, so the form filler entered the word "cancelled" instead.
Evgeny Artemov (X) Mar 11, 2015:
Tina, is the form you are translating posted somewhere online? What is the form? Number?
Michael Beijer Mar 11, 2015:
wild guess If is says "geroyeerd" (cancelled?) under "Kenteken", it seems the author is using "Kenteken" to mean something like state/condition (i.e., whether it is cancelled or not). That is: the state of the policy is: "cancelled".

Just guessing here, so don't shoot me if this makes no sense at all.

I wonder what other things one might find under the "Kenteken" heading? If cancelled ("geroyeerd") is an option, would something like covered/insured, or active (as in policy running/active) be an option?
Tina Vonhof (X) (asker) Mar 11, 2015:
Life insurance, so not 'kenteken' as is 'licence plate number'.
Textpertise Mar 11, 2015:
Type of insurance specified? Is it motor vehicle insurance or some other type?

Proposed translations

3 hrs

policy status

This seems to be what it means.

See e.g.:

"Status indicates whether the policy is one of the following:
- EXPIRED: Policy is no longer active.
- CANCELLED: The policy was terminated by either the insurance company or the insured.
- IN-EFFECT: Policy is active.
- DISPUTED: Consumer has disputed specific items or the entire policy.

[…]

- If'N', the last reported policy period is greater than 30 days from the inquiry' date, or the previous policy period is within 30 days of the inquiry date but the policy status is reported as cancelled.

[…]

IN-EFFECT is the subject policy status. No other information will be reported. If the subject status is CANCELLED or EXPIRED, the timeframe that the subject has been off of the policy will be reported. This timeframe is calculated based on the policy period end date to the date of inquiry'.

[…]

Dispute Information is reported if the policy status is DISPUTED. Once the dispute has been resolved, this section will no longer be reported."

(https://insurancelink.custhelp.com/ci/fattach/get/1475456/0/... )



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Note added at 7 hrs (2015-03-12 01:04:46 GMT)
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@Tina: indeed. Hmm. Confusing.
Example sentence:

If 'N', the last reported policy period is greater than 30 days from the inquiry' date, or the previous policy period is within 30 days of the inquiry date but the <b>policy status</b> is reported as cancelled.

Status indicates whether the policy is one of the following: EXPIRED, CANCELLED, IN-EFFECT, DISPUTED.

Note from asker:
'Status' would fit in the context but that's not what is says. In the database you give in the discussion section 'status' is listed at the top with an explanation but 'kenteken' is listed at the bottom, unfortunately without an explanation. This seems to suggest that they are not the same thing.
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22 hrs

Reference or Designation

Since there is no policy number, the policy having been cancelled, this would be some way of identifying the whole transaction. I would say use reference if it is not already being used for something else. Otherwise, designation will do.

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Note added at 1 day21 hrs (2015-03-13 15:07:24 GMT)
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My experience is that you can often still go back to a client within 24 hours or so after delivery and tell them that you had some difficulty with a term but that you now believe the translation should be such and such. They very often appreciate this. After all, it is in their best interests to have the translation be as complete and accurate as possible.
Note from asker:
Designation would work I think. Unfortunately the client ran out of time and I had to leave it untranslated.
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