Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
Ni leyendas negras ni leyendas blancas
English translation:
Neither devils nor angels/An objective view
Added to glossary by
Edward Tully
Jan 14, 2009 20:31
15 yrs ago
Spanish term
Ni leyendas negras ni leyendas blancas
Spanish to English
Other
History
Los Borgias
This is the title of a book about the somewhat shady history of the Borgia family.
Any suggestions would be great, thanks.
Any suggestions would be great, thanks.
Proposed translations
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| 4 +2 | Neither devils nor angels/An objective view |
Edward Tully
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| 4 +2 | neither black nor white legends |
Remy Arce
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| 4 +2 | Black Legend/White Legend: The Truth About the Borgias |
patinba
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References
| Oxford ES-EN |
Diego Puls
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Change log
Jan 15, 2009 12:31: Edward Tully Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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Edward Tully
Native in English
Because your words matter
Native in: English (Variants: US, UK) 
Works in: Spanish to English
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Neither devils nor angels/An objective view
2 options! It all depends on how literal or poetic you would like the translation...
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Kate Major Patience
: I think really that the "black/white" thing is likely to sound stilted in English. This is an excellent alternative, given the context of this family line. :)// By the way, I´d go for "The Borgias: neither devils nor angels/devils and angels
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thank you Kate! ;-)
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Carol Gullidge
: I thought I'd agreed with this, but must have pessed the wrong button
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no problem, thank you Carol! ;-)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "This seemed the most appropriate, considering the subject matter. Thank you all so much for your suggestions and comments"
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neither black nor white legends
http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Black_Legend_-_White_Leg...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Legend
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Note added at 33 mins (2009-01-14 21:04:51 GMT)
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My answer is based on the assumption that you are looking for a translation of the book's title
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/3029015#6803129
"While Cesare Borgia and the entire family were shrouded in the so-called black legend..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Legend
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Note added at 33 mins (2009-01-14 21:04:51 GMT)
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My answer is based on the assumption that you are looking for a translation of the book's title
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/3029015#6803129
"While Cesare Borgia and the entire family were shrouded in the so-called black legend..."
Peer comment(s):
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Andres Pacheco
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¡muchas gracias Andrés!
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Kathryn Litherland
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Thanks Kathryn!
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Black Legend/White Legend: The Truth About the Borgias
If you want a book title
Lucrezia Borgia: Encyclopedia II - Black Legend - White Legend. In contrast to the Black Legend is the so-called White Legend (in Spanish, "leyenda rosa", ...
www.experiencefestival.com/lucrezia_borgia - 118k - En caché - Páginas similares
NationMaster - Encyclopedia: White Legend - [ Traducir esta página ]This is contrasted with the White Legend (in Spanish, leyenda rosa, .... Similarly, proponents of the White Legend tend to excuse the Spanish Inquisition , ...
www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/White-Legend - 56k - En caché - Páginas similares
White Legend. Who is White Legend? What is White Legend? Where is ... - [ Traducir esta página ]Definition of White Legend in an online ecyclopedia or dictionary. ... Topics of the Black Legend. Bullfighting · Lucrezia Borgia
Lucrezia Borgia: Encyclopedia II - Black Legend - White Legend. In contrast to the Black Legend is the so-called White Legend (in Spanish, "leyenda rosa", ...
www.experiencefestival.com/lucrezia_borgia - 118k - En caché - Páginas similares
NationMaster - Encyclopedia: White Legend - [ Traducir esta página ]This is contrasted with the White Legend (in Spanish, leyenda rosa, .... Similarly, proponents of the White Legend tend to excuse the Spanish Inquisition , ...
www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/White-Legend - 56k - En caché - Páginas similares
White Legend. Who is White Legend? What is White Legend? Where is ... - [ Traducir esta página ]Definition of White Legend in an online ecyclopedia or dictionary. ... Topics of the Black Legend. Bullfighting · Lucrezia Borgia
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Cecilia Welsh
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Thanks, Lady!
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Carol Gullidge
: another nice one
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Reference comments
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Diego Puls
Native in Spanish
Native in: Spanish 
Works in: Dutch to Spanish, German to Spanish, English to Spanish, and 2 more.
Reference:
Oxford ES-EN
leyenda negra = unfavorable interpretation of Spain's colonizing role in the Americas
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Note added at 8 minutos (2009-01-14 20:39:17 GMT)
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Moliner define "leyenda negra" como "1. Opinión desfavorable sobre España, que se difundió en el siglo XVI, basada sobre todo en la política de la casa de Austria en sus territorios europeos y en la conquista y colonización de América. 2. Por extensión, mala fama de un individuo o de una colectividad, generalmente infundada."
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Note added at 8 minutos (2009-01-14 20:39:17 GMT)
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Moliner define "leyenda negra" como "1. Opinión desfavorable sobre España, que se difundió en el siglo XVI, basada sobre todo en la política de la casa de Austria en sus territorios europeos y en la conquista y colonización de América. 2. Por extensión, mala fama de un individuo o de una colectividad, generalmente infundada."
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