Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
Amateurs de vin
English translation:
wine lovers
Added to glossary by
Karine Piera
Feb 15, 2004 23:28
20 yrs ago
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Les amateurs de vin
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Tourism & Travel
brochure d'un hotel
Il s'agit d'une brochure d'hotel. On y parle des amateurs de vin et les connaisseurs en fromage.
Puis-je conserver amateur en anglais ou dois-je utiliser connoisseur?
Merci d'avance.
Puis-je conserver amateur en anglais ou dois-je utiliser connoisseur?
Merci d'avance.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 5 +10 | wine lovers |
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
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| 3 +4 | wine lovers, wine enthusiasts, wine fanciers |
writeaway
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| 5 +1 | Wine connoisseurs |
alx
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Proposed translations
+10
1 min
Selected
wine lovers
NOT amateurs though they might be...amateur means NOT PROFESSIONAL en anglais. Un point, c'est tout.
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oenophiles
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connaisseur c\'est quelqu\'un qui s\'y connait...je suppose qu\'il y a des amateurs qui son connaisseurs mais ici non
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OH PARDON
oui..vous pouvez utiliser connaissuers MAIS
LE STYLE dicte
Wine and cheese lovers
parce que amateur de vins et CONNAISEURS de fromage, c\'est bizarre
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Note added at 1 min (2004-02-15 23:29:46 GMT)
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or
oenophiles
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Note added at 3 mins (2004-02-15 23:31:25 GMT)
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connaisseur c\'est quelqu\'un qui s\'y connait...je suppose qu\'il y a des amateurs qui son connaisseurs mais ici non
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Note added at 4 mins (2004-02-15 23:32:53 GMT)
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OH PARDON
oui..vous pouvez utiliser connaissuers MAIS
LE STYLE dicte
Wine and cheese lovers
parce que amateur de vins et CONNAISEURS de fromage, c\'est bizarre
Peer comment(s):
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writeaway
: wonderful answer Jane, straight from the vineyards of Boston I suppose? :-)
3 mins
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| agree |
Bourth (X)
: Took the wine, er, cheese, I mean words from my mouth
18 mins
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| agree |
roneill
: Well, maybe they know more about cheese than they do about wine, but it is bizarre to phrase it like that!
57 mins
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| agree |
Nado2002
1 hr
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| agree |
Charlie Bavington
: "lovers of (both) wine and cheese" might be another possibility to combine the two. But for the Q as asked - yep - wine lovers.
4 hrs
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| agree |
EJP
9 hrs
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louisajay
: Actually in UK English, "amateur wine enthusiasts" would be fine - it doesn't carry any bad connotations, just means it's a hobby they indulge in rather than a job
13 hrs
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ZIL (X)
15 hrs
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| agree |
ben baudoin
15 hrs
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| agree |
Yves Johnson
1 day 2 hrs
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| agree |
reliable
1 day 7 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "je conserve cette reponse qui semble mettre tout le monde ou presque d'accord tout en remerciant egalement writeaway et Alexandra"
+4
3 mins
wine lovers, wine enthusiasts, wine fanciers
amateurs is a false friend in this context.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Bourth (X)
: Why does "fanciers" always make me think of pigeons? Bow-wow.
31 mins
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maybe because pigeon fanciers is such a fixed term. however interrogatively speaking, I have heard 'anyone fancy a wine'? but never 'anyone fancy a pigeon?'. arf arf
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roneill
53 mins
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| agree |
Nado2002
1 hr
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| agree |
Tony M
: But I don't like 'fanciers'...
9 hrs
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agree-threw it in as an afterthought-does really go best with pigeons (so I guess it means that the suggestion is for the birds...)
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+1
12 hrs
Wine connoisseurs
not sure if it takes a double n though.
Could replace wine by spirits for a more generical approach.
Could replace wine by spirits for a more generical approach.
Peer comment(s):
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Charlie Bavington
: no objection to connoisseurs, but "spirits" is not more generic, "spirits" is distilled alcoholic drinks - vodka, tequilla, gin, whisky, rum, brandy, etc - all the things bars serve in optics ! :-)
1 hr
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| agree |
nco
: "wine conoisseurs" sounds good to me, too!
22 hrs
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