Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
disposée horizontalement sur chant
English translation:
horizontally on edge/with the bottom edge horizontal [in epiradiator fire test]
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Carol Gullidge
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disposée horizontalement sur chant
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Fire test: help needed with interpreting this
L'éprouvette (400 mm x 35 mm), ***** disposée horizontalement sur chant *****, est soumise à l'action d'une flamme d'un brûleur à gaz. On mesure la vitesse de propagation de la flamme entre deux repères distants de 250 mm sur l'éprouvette et/ou la persistance de flamme après retrait du brûleur
This seems like a very simple question, and I'm probably being incredibly thick! But I'm struggling to get my head round the juxtaposition of "horizontally" and "on its edge/edgewise", as given in my trusty Collins Robert.
My experiments with a chewing-gum box have the "sample" with one edge horizontal, which means that its vertical plane can be at any angle - if that makes sense...
Or, could it really mean "with its surface horizontal"?
I fully realise that this is going to be hard to explain without diagrams, but any help with defining this would be gratefully received! It's in a test report on resistance to fire, so needs to be fairly concise.
This seems like a very simple question, and I'm probably being incredibly thick! But I'm struggling to get my head round the juxtaposition of "horizontally" and "on its edge/edgewise", as given in my trusty Collins Robert.
My experiments with a chewing-gum box have the "sample" with one edge horizontal, which means that its vertical plane can be at any angle - if that makes sense...
Or, could it really mean "with its surface horizontal"?
I fully realise that this is going to be hard to explain without diagrams, but any help with defining this would be gratefully received! It's in a test report on resistance to fire, so needs to be fairly concise.
Proposed translations
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| 4 +1 | horizontally on edge |
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| 4 +1 | laid horizontally on the edge |
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horizontally on edge
What shape is your specimen?
Take a plank, you know, a piece of wood - no, I'm not suggesting you're thick! You can stand it in a rack against a wall: it will be vertical. But you can stand it flat against the wall or edge-on to the wall (on edge). Or you can lean it against a wall, like a ladder, in which case it is oblique or sub-vertical. Hard to do this "on-edge", but it can done. Just don't try climbing it if it's a ladder ...
Or you can put your plank on scaffolding. Horizontal is generally the recommended position. To make a scaffold deck, you could take, four, say planks and place them flat, side by side, to make a platform. Or you could take 30 planks or so and lay them on edge to make a VERY THICK platform.
Not quite a thousand words, but have you got the picture?
Take a plank, you know, a piece of wood - no, I'm not suggesting you're thick! You can stand it in a rack against a wall: it will be vertical. But you can stand it flat against the wall or edge-on to the wall (on edge). Or you can lean it against a wall, like a ladder, in which case it is oblique or sub-vertical. Hard to do this "on-edge", but it can done. Just don't try climbing it if it's a ladder ...
Or you can put your plank on scaffolding. Horizontal is generally the recommended position. To make a scaffold deck, you could take, four, say planks and place them flat, side by side, to make a platform. Or you could take 30 planks or so and lay them on edge to make a VERY THICK platform.
Not quite a thousand words, but have you got the picture?
Note from asker:
| thanks, Bourth! It's a strip of the material, 5.5 mm thick x 35 mm x 400 mm. With apologies to Dr Daniel Jones, I've just remembered that it's placed on a metal grill for the fire test, about which I suspect you already know more than I do! |
| By "standing it flat against the wall", do you mean it's lying along its length (lengthwise) with the upper edge (in this case, the long edge, or length) against the wall? Probably not, and I AM being as thick as 2.... |
Peer comment(s):
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: Hey ! that's what I said !
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Comment: "Thanks again, Bourth! Your explanation is in wds of 1 syllable - exactly what I need! Also, at some stage over the series, you provided the most wonderful pdf file showing an actual diagram of the epiradiator test - making it so much easier..."
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laid horizontally on the edge
European Patent EP1321345 Link to this page:http://www.freepatentsonline.com/EP1321345.html Abstract:Abstract of EP1321345
The trolley comprises a chassis and a basket (14) which rests on two crosspieces (19,20). The support comprises two side frames (38) each with an indentation (43) and carrying two securing rods (42). The two indentations receive one of the crosspieces and the two rods are folded over the second crosspiece. The side frames support the rods by means of transverse support bars (44) to which the rods are directly fixed. <??>An Independent claim is included for a trolley fitted with a support.
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I'd say it's on the edge of whatever's supporting it in order to be more exposed to the flame; not on just a flat surface IOW
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PS Thick ? Join the club !!
The trolley comprises a chassis and a basket (14) which rests on two crosspieces (19,20). The support comprises two side frames (38) each with an indentation (43) and carrying two securing rods (42). The two indentations receive one of the crosspieces and the two rods are folded over the second crosspiece. The side frames support the rods by means of transverse support bars (44) to which the rods are directly fixed. <??>An Independent claim is included for a trolley fitted with a support.
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Note added at 19 mins (2007-08-13 14:56:05 GMT)
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I'd say it's on the edge of whatever's supporting it in order to be more exposed to the flame; not on just a flat surface IOW
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Note added at 20 mins (2007-08-13 14:56:40 GMT)
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PS Thick ? Join the club !!
Note from asker:
| Thanks! I'm still confused: the edge of what - which edge? (Sorry to be so thick!) Or could it mean "on the edge of whatever is supporting it"? But no mention is made of this... |
| thanks, Bourth! It's a strip of the material, 5.5 mm thick x 35 mm x 400 mm. With apologies to Dr Daniel Jones, I've just remembered that it's placed on a metal grill for the fire test, about which I suspect you already know more than I do! |
| Sorry! That last note went into the wrong box... |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Bourth (X)
: Did I really take more than 4 minutes to type my answer? Must have!
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Discussion
Thanks, both of you!
I'm assuming that, if it relates to an edge, then it's referring to an edge of the sample, and not an edge of the metal grill on which it has been placed for the fire test. Otherwise, I feel sure that this would be mentioned at this point.