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Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

Direction des Grands Travaux Hydrauliques

English translation:

Directorate of Main Hydraulic Works

Added to glossary by cc in nyc
Dec 26, 2011 06:29
12 yrs ago
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French term

Direction des Grands Travaux Hydrauliques

French to English Other Names (personal, company) environment and ecology
Republique Tunisienne

Direction des Grands Travaux Hydrauliques
Proposed translations (English)
4 +1 Directorate of Main Hydraulic Works
4 +2 Directorate of Major Hydraulic Works
4 Directorate for Major Water Resources Infrastructures
3 -1 Directorate General of Dams and Large Hydraulic Works
References
Department of Studies and Major Hydraulic Works (EIGHTH)
Change log

Dec 26, 2011 11:50: writeaway changed "Field (specific)" from "Environment & Ecology" to "Names (personal, company)" , "Field (write-in)" from "(none)" to "environment and ecology "

Jan 16, 2012 03:56: cc in nyc Created KOG entry

Proposed translations

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9 hrs
Selected

Directorate of Main Hydraulic Works

That's what it's called by the World Bank:

DGTH
Directorate of Main Hydraulic Works. (Ministry of Public. Works)
Direction des Grands Travaux Hydrauliques. (Ministère de l'Equipement)
From:
http://www-wds.worldbank.org/external/default/WDSContentServ...
Peer comment(s):
neutral B D Finch : Your reference is poor quality and full of typos. "Main" does not seem to be the best translation of "grands" in this context.//I don't think that that reference is good enough to constitute World Bank authority.
2 hrs
The writing looks OK to me, though there are some typical scan issues (original is from the 1970s)... and the report does not appear to be a translation. Personally, I would have preferred "large," but the World Bank did not.
agree AllegroTrans
18 hrs
Thank you.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
+2
12 hrs

Directorate of Major Hydraulic Works

Or, Directorate of Major Hydraulic Engineering Works.

There doesn't seem to be a good, generally accepted or official translation. The reference below also translates this as "General Directorate for major water development works", which is not really satisfactory as "development" doesn't appear in the source.

"In February 2001, the DGB became the General Directorate for Dams and Major Hydraulic Works (DGBGTH), through a merger with the General Directorate for Studies and Major Hydraulic Works (DGEGTH) which existed concurrently at the Ministry of Agriculture."
www.afdb.org/.../ADB-BD-IF-2004-111-EN-TUNISIA-SIDI-EL-BA.....

When there is no official or generally accepted translation, one should try to produce something to fill the gap, rather than just copying whatever can be found on any vaguely official website and which might be translation of dubious quality.
Peer comment(s):
neutral cc in nyc : Possible, if one is creating a new term for an old agency. BTW, "page not found" for the afdb link.
17 mins
Why not. Yes, that is a problem when these site refs are too long. However, using an extract, it can be googled.
neutral Sheila Hardie : Yes, if this is really what they mean - we don't have enough context to be sure. I suspect they might be referring to the new Directorate... BTW, 'major' and 'large' both seem to be used to translate this name. My client prefers the use of 'large'.
22 mins
I suppose that there can be hydraulic works that are of major importance but small size or big but of minor importance.
agree Bourth (X) : That's what springs to mind, from the days when I worked with dam designers working in Morocco and Tunisia, etc.
15 hrs
Thanks Bourth
agree AllegroTrans
15 hrs
Thanks AT
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34 mins

Directorate General of Dams and Large Hydraulic Works

If you are talking about Tunisia, I imagine you are referring to the DGBGTH - 'Direction Générale Des Barrages Et Des Grands Travaux Hydrauliques'. If so, I'd translate this as 'Directorate General of Dams and Large Hydraulic Works' or something similar.

HTH


Sheila

Direction Générale Des Barrages Et Des Grands Travaux ...
www.semide.tn/adminBGTH.htm - Tradueix aquesta pàgina
Direction Générale des Barrages Et Des Grands Travaux Hydrauliques. Thème de la base des données : Gestion des Barrages. Planification des ressources ...
BGTH
www.semide.tn/BGTH.htm - Tradueix aquesta pàgina
Nom de l'organisme : Direction Générale des Barrages et des Grands Travaux Hydrauliques Sigle : DGBGTH Type de l'organisme : Administration publique ...
Barrages de Tunisie - Wikipédia
fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrages_de_Tunisie - Tradueix aquesta pàgina
Le premier grand barrage d'Afrique du Nord a été construit en Tunisie. ... par la direction générale des barrages et des grands travaux hydrauliques (DGBGTH). ...
Ministères Tunisie : membres du gouvernement tunisien – Politique ...
www.tunisie.gov.tn/index.php?... - Tradueix aquesta pàgina
Direction Générale des Barrages et des Grands Travaux Hydrauliques : Adresse : 30, rue Alain Savary 1002-Tunis le Belvédère Téléphone : 71 892 518 / 71 ...

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Note added at 12 hrs (2011-12-26 19:10:58 GMT)
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I agree with BD Finch's answer if this is what is meant - however, as you do not provide much context it is hard to say. In your other questions, you mention the Oued Mejerda. If your text is about the Oued project, it may well be the DGBGTH they are referring to. I am currently working on a similar project.
Peer comment(s):
disagree cc in nyc : DBGTH is for a different title
9 hrs
I agree, however I am not sure if they are really referring to this in the text - we need more context to be sure.
neutral B D Finch : "Directorate General" sounds back-to-front to me.
12 hrs
Maybe, but it's used very frequently in EU and UK texts
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1 day 3 hrs

Directorate for Major Water Resources Infrastructures

Looking back, I find that the Direction Générale des Barrages et des Grands Travaux Hydrauliques - DGBTH - was Directorate General for Dams and Major Water Resources Infrastructures.
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Reference comments

56 mins
Reference:

Department of Studies and Major Hydraulic Works (EIGHTH)

Peer comments on this reference comment:
disagree cc in nyc : This seems to be "Direction des Etudes et Grands Travaux Hydrauliques" – slightly different ;-) // Also, you might consider using quote marks for multiword searches (just a friendly suggestion)
9 hrs
disagree B D Finch : As cc notes, this is a different directorate. Also, there is no good reason not to use "Directorate" and "Etudes" should be translated as engineering, not studies.
11 hrs
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