Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
petite pêche
English translation:
small-scale fishing
Added to glossary by
Terry Richards
Jun 28, 2008 14:10
15 yrs ago
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French term
France
30 years in IT, Engineering degree.
Native in: English (Variants: British, UK, US) 
Works in: French to English, English
petite pêche
French to English
Other
Fisheries
I know what it means, I just can't think how to say it :)
It's basically the opposite of deep-sea fishing. But it's NOT coastal fishing as this is listed seperately.
This is just about all the context I have:
...compte 1500 bateaux de pêche dont 80% de bateaux inscrits en petite pêche ou pêche côtière.
TIA
It's basically the opposite of deep-sea fishing. But it's NOT coastal fishing as this is listed seperately.
This is just about all the context I have:
...compte 1500 bateaux de pêche dont 80% de bateaux inscrits en petite pêche ou pêche côtière.
TIA
Proposed translations
(English)
| 1 +2 | small-scale fishing |
Tony M
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| 4 | fishing as sport |
Speakering (X)
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| 4 -1 | artisanal fishing |
Pierre Castegnier
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| 3 | inshore fishing |
Michael Varga
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Proposed translations
+2
3 mins
Selected
small-scale fishing
Would that do the job, Terry?
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Note added at 4 mins (2008-06-28 14:15:13 GMT)
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You might also try 'independent fishermen' (as distinct from industrial concerns)
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Note added at 52 mins (2008-06-28 15:03:14 GMT)
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Is there anything about 'petite pêche' that automatically makes you think it ISN'T deep-sea too? The fact that they contrast it with 'inshore fishing' (I'd prefer that to coastal, myself) makes me think it is more about the scale of it than about the distance from the shore...?
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Note added at 4 mins (2008-06-28 14:15:13 GMT)
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You might also try 'independent fishermen' (as distinct from industrial concerns)
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Note added at 52 mins (2008-06-28 15:03:14 GMT)
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Is there anything about 'petite pêche' that automatically makes you think it ISN'T deep-sea too? The fact that they contrast it with 'inshore fishing' (I'd prefer that to coastal, myself) makes me think it is more about the scale of it than about the distance from the shore...?
Note from asker:
| I considered independant fishermen but can't you have independant deep-sea fishermen? Small-scale is probably OK but I wondered if there wasn't some official term? |
| I don't know a lot about commercial fishing but I get the impression from my research that the scale and the distance from shore are [somewhat] linked. What I think I need is something between coastal/inshore and deep-sea. Is there such a thing as off-shore fishing in a commercial sense? |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Michael Varga
8 hrs
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Thanks, Machal!
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| agree |
margaret caulfield
12 hrs
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Thanks, Margaret!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks Tony, I'm still not entirely sure we got to the right answer but the discussion around this one was most helpful."
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47 mins
Pierre Castegnier
Native in French
Translation, Technology, Transfer
Native in: French (Variant: Canadian) 
Works in: English to French, French to English
artisanal fishing
Je penses qu'on doit moduler la petite pêche en mode d'exploitation en Angalis: artisanal or local fishing un peu comme dans le secteur de l'agriculture artisanale et locale.
http://www.lavoisier.fr/notice/fr9251036090.html
Andro, M. et al. (1987). Sécurité et conditions de travail à la pêche petite pêche - pêche côtière - pêche au large. IFREMER: Brest, France. ISBN 2-905434-12-0. 400 pp., details
Arzel, P. (1998). Kelp on the coasts of Brittany: evolution of
Lemoine, M.; Giret, M. (1991). Artisanal fishing in the east side of the English Channel: fishing fleets and fishery service resources
http://www.lavoisier.fr/notice/fr9251036090.html
Andro, M. et al. (1987). Sécurité et conditions de travail à la pêche petite pêche - pêche côtière - pêche au large. IFREMER: Brest, France. ISBN 2-905434-12-0. 400 pp., details
Arzel, P. (1998). Kelp on the coasts of Brittany: evolution of
Lemoine, M.; Giret, M. (1991). Artisanal fishing in the east side of the English Channel: fishing fleets and fishery service resources
Reference:
http://www.lavoisier.fr/notice/fr9251036090.html
http:///www.vliz.be/imis/imis.php?module=institute&insid=4299
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Tony M
: 'artisanal' is not used in this context in EN; it is rather a faux ami, and your second ref. is clearly a not-very-well-translated FR site in the first place!
3 mins
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8 hrs
Michael Varga
Canada
Canada
Native in English
Canada
Certified translater - humanities
Native in: English
Works in: French to English, German to English
inshore fishing
or "smaller-scale fishing" according to this Government of Canada website:
http://www.parl.gc.ca/37/3/parlbus/commbus/senate/com-e/fish...
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Note added at 8 hrs (2008-06-28 22:26:58 GMT)
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I agree with Tony M that "inshore" and "smaller-scale" are not mutually exclusive. The "ou" in the French sentence may be referring to the two types as alternate terms/contexts as opposed to separate activities.
http://www.parl.gc.ca/37/3/parlbus/commbus/senate/com-e/fish...
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Note added at 8 hrs (2008-06-28 22:26:58 GMT)
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I agree with Tony M that "inshore" and "smaller-scale" are not mutually exclusive. The "ou" in the French sentence may be referring to the two types as alternate terms/contexts as opposed to separate activities.
Note from asker:
| Yes, I wondered about that (two terms for the same thing) myself. |
12 hrs
fishing as sport
that what is called when done for pleasure and not for profit.
Note from asker:
| Thanks but this document is about the financial aspects so, in this case at least, it is a commercial activity. |
Discussion
http://terrain.revues.org/document3334.html