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French term or phrase:
créées en standard comme fantaisie
English translation:
standard and fancy
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Rachel Fell
Apr 23, 2014 07:16
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French term
créées en standard comme fantaisie
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In a cyclamen catalogue, talking about their varieties. Context: "Heureux d’innover sans cesse pour vous, nous vous proposons 23 raisons de choisir nos variétés de cyclamen XX **créées en standard comme fantaisie**." Does this mean that they are new standard varieties created as standard varieties? And does "comme fantaisie" have the idea of "imaginative" or "unusual"? Any help gratefully received!
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Apr 28, 2014 08:31: Rachel Fell Created KOG entry
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standard and fancy
I think that's all they mean
"Develop the offer with 'standard' and 'fancy' varieties"
http://www.cyclamen.com/flip/en/cahier-technique-us/files/as...
A large choice of standard and fancy cyclamen in all sizes for every season! T
http://www.flowertrials.nl/en/morel
"Develop the offer with 'standard' and 'fancy' varieties"
http://www.cyclamen.com/flip/en/cahier-technique-us/files/as...
A large choice of standard and fancy cyclamen in all sizes for every season! T
http://www.flowertrials.nl/en/morel
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Tony M
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Thank you Tony :-)
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writeaway
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Thank you writeaway :-)
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BrigitteHilgner
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Thank you Brigitte :-)
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Bertrand Leduc
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Thank you Bertrand :-)
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Comment: "Thanks very much for your help."
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standard cyclamens, such as fantasia
http://www.terraviva.co.nz/kbasedetail.php?kid=8
"Miniature flowering cyclamen have small long lasting fragrant flowers and small leaves with attractive marbled patterns.
Standard cyclamen have large long lasting flowers with a slight fragrance.
There are also double and ruffled standard varieties."
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www.floraculture.nl/index.php?option=com_content...
Five years ago Morel launched its Fantasia cyclamen with white edged, thick petals providing a better shelf life.
"Miniature flowering cyclamen have small long lasting fragrant flowers and small leaves with attractive marbled patterns.
Standard cyclamen have large long lasting flowers with a slight fragrance.
There are also double and ruffled standard varieties."
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www.floraculture.nl/index.php?option=com_content...
Five years ago Morel launched its Fantasia cyclamen with white edged, thick petals providing a better shelf life.
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Francis Marche
: 23 varieties, either standard or fancy// That's exactly what it means: "en" is not to be necessarily repeated in such phrase and besides your interpretation clashes with the context (23 varieties)
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I suggest you look at the grammar; what you suggest would have been "créées en standard comme en fantaisie".
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both standard and fanciful
"Fantasia" is a proper name both in E and F.
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or rather "23 varieties [...] either standard or fanciful"
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"Cyclamen
Morel Diffusion introduced the fancy type ‘Dhiva Salmon’ to its Halios series, which already includes 16 colors and eight other ***fancy varieties***. A compact plant, ‘Dhi-va Salmon’ has large, striated petals that are rounded and arranged in a fan shape."
http://www.gpnmag.com/not-seen-pack-trials
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or rather "23 varieties [...] either standard or fanciful"
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"Cyclamen
Morel Diffusion introduced the fancy type ‘Dhiva Salmon’ to its Halios series, which already includes 16 colors and eight other ***fancy varieties***. A compact plant, ‘Dhi-va Salmon’ has large, striated petals that are rounded and arranged in a fan shape."
http://www.gpnmag.com/not-seen-pack-trials
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B D Finch
: I don't think that any grower or florist would describe cyclamen is as "fanciful", which does not mean the same thing at all as "fancy". Also, note my comment on your "disagree" regarding your failure to note the grammar.
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Tony M
: As BDF says, we wouldn't use 'fanciful' here, the proper term is 'fancy'
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French term (edited):
fantaisie
fancy-leaved / fancy-leaved (form)
This seems to be what's used for cyclamens.
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Sorry second option is "leaFed".
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https://www.google.ie/search?num=100&q="cyclamen" "fancy-lea...
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Sorry second option is "leaFed".
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https://www.google.ie/search?num=100&q="cyclamen" "fancy-lea...
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both standard varieties and novelties
If new varieties of plants are created, they are novelties.
Discussion
Ici, nous rentrons dans le domaine le plus vaste et le plus difficile du champ de la sélection. En effet, si depuis plus d'un siècle, avec les variétés tétraploïdes, les formes originales et spéciales des pétales avaient été répertoriées, aujourd'hui, c'est le challenge des sélectionneurs de cyclamens hybrides F1 que d'incorporer dans leurs séries ces variations extraordinaires."
"De ce fait, tout l'art du sélectionneur va consister, dans sa série de cyclamens, à allier les qualités de précocité et de floribondité. Pour certaines "Fantaisies", le caractère particulier de la fleur compense un éventuel déficit agronomique ..."