Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

Carpothèque

English translation:

Herbarium [rather than Seed library/bank]

Added to glossary by Rachel Fell
Jun 12, 2007 22:16
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French term

Carpothèque

French to English Science Botany
Does Carpotheca exist as a translation? I found 1 reference: aob.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/81/2/337.pdf
but no dictionary entries. Anyone out there who can assist? Seed Library seems a bit blah.
Proposed translations (English)
4 +1 Seed library
4 Carpotheca
Change log

Jun 23, 2007 20:34: Rachel Fell changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/643762">coquis's</a> old entry - "Carpothèque"" to ""Seed library""

Jul 26, 2007 06:54: Rachel Fell changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/100794">Rachel Fell's</a> old entry - "Carpothèque"" to ""Seed library""

Discussion

Rachel Fell Jul 24, 2007:
thanks for info. - cf. here on p. 415 (search for herbarium) http://aob.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/82/4/413.pdf - I think the authors in your article meant herbarium.
coquis (asker) Jul 24, 2007:
Seed collection library "Carpotheca would not be used in English to mean a seed collection library, the most common term for this would be 'seed bank'. This would be a collection of seeds only, usually stored as a germplasm resource. Preserved parts of plants (including the fruits) would be stored in a 'herbarium', which might be more appropriate for your use. Carpotheca (in scientific Latin) is a genus name for a group of fossil plants. Translated from the component parts carpo- (from greek carpos) meaning seed or fruit and theca (again from greek) meaning case or cover, I would suspect the name refers to the morphology of the fruits." = from the OED who I contacted about this. The answer came from one of the scientific editors of the OED.
Robert Frankling Jun 13, 2007:
This Greek word is certainly not transliterated from Russian. Carpotheca carvifolia is a plant with no English common name. The Moscow collection (Carpotheca) at the Institute of Carpology (study of fruit and seed structure) would be known in carpology.
Robert Frankling Jun 13, 2007:
"Carpotheca" meaning a "seed-case" (as in book-case=bibliotheca) looks like a perfectly good word, though very rarely used. Probably, it would be more like a seed repository or museum. This should be acceptable, since you found it in an Oxford journal.
Drmanu49 Jun 12, 2007:
Carpology is a science. The term Carpotheca is in line with this.

Proposed translations

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Seed library

I don't think it does - we say Seed library or Seed collection

Just because it's in an Oxford journal doesn't necessarily mean...

The Heritage Seed Library (HSL) aims to conserve and make available vegetable varieties that are not widely available. The HSL Department maintains a collection, mainly of European varieties. Over the decades many varieties have been dropped from popular seed catalogues.

http://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/hsl/index.php

Kew: Science Directory: Teams: Madagascar: Complete Text for Printing
... 2010 as a follow on from the initial agreement signed in 2000 for the establishment of a national seed collection and joint collections with RBG Kew. ...
ftp.rbgkew.org.uk/science/directory/teams/Madagascar/completetext.html - 42k -
Peer comment(s):

agree Vicky Papaprodromou
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Ευχαριστώ Vicky:-)
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Carpotheca

forest [voucher specimens at the Carpotheca of the National. Institute of Carpology (Gaertnerian Institution), Moscow,. NICAR]. Drawings were made with the ...
aob.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/81/2/337.pd

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or carpology files

This file is in Adobe Acrobat (PDF) format. If you have not installed ... Try saving the file to disk before printing rather than opening it "on the fly. ...
aob.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprintframed/82/4/413 -

palynology (pollen analysis) and carpology (fruit. analysis) — though the presence of pollen. provides only circumstantial evidence that fruit ...
bananas.bioversityinternational.org/files/files/pdf/publications/focusen_phytoliths.pdf -
Note from asker:
thank you for responding. I put in the same reference, but my question was whether or not the term actually existed in English vs. whether or not the Carpotheca was just Russified English.
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