Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
(un pignon) partie aveugle
English translation:
blind gable
Added to glossary by
B D Finch
Apr 12, 2008 14:24
16 yrs ago
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French term
partie aveugle
French to English
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Architecture
From the leaflet of an architects' agency. I'm not sure
whether "partie aveugle" can be translated with "blind part", and would be grateful for help and comments.
"Les modifications sont légères hormis le traitement du pignon ouest qui était une partie aveugle très imposante et qui a été complètement retravaillé dans l'esprit de « donner à lire la coupe du bâtiment ». "
whether "partie aveugle" can be translated with "blind part", and would be grateful for help and comments.
"Les modifications sont légères hormis le traitement du pignon ouest qui était une partie aveugle très imposante et qui a été complètement retravaillé dans l'esprit de « donner à lire la coupe du bâtiment ». "
Proposed translations
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| 5 +3 | blind gable |
B D Finch
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| 4 +4 | blank wall |
Bourth (X)
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| 4 | blind spot |
Katarina Peters
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| 4 | dark part |
zi_neb
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| 4 | windowless gable |
Expialidocio (X)
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| 4 | dark area |
raj_gup
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Proposed translations
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blind gable
As this is a pignon, I think that it is safe to refer back to that and consider "partie" redundant.
I've never seen reference to a "blind part" of a building, one generally specifies what it is that is "blind". Docobat has "blind gable" as "pignon aveugle".
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Note added at 1 day18 hrs (2008-04-14 08:26:52 GMT)
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In answer to fourth's question:
"The alterations are minor, except for the treatment of the west gable, which is a very imposing blind gable and which was completely reworked ..."
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Note added at 1 day23 hrs (2008-04-14 14:02:46 GMT)
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Omit "which is" and "and" in above sentence:
""The alterations are minor, except for the treatment of the west gable, a very imposing blind gable which was completely reworked ..."
I've never seen reference to a "blind part" of a building, one generally specifies what it is that is "blind". Docobat has "blind gable" as "pignon aveugle".
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Note added at 1 day18 hrs (2008-04-14 08:26:52 GMT)
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In answer to fourth's question:
"The alterations are minor, except for the treatment of the west gable, which is a very imposing blind gable and which was completely reworked ..."
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Note added at 1 day23 hrs (2008-04-14 14:02:46 GMT)
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Omit "which is" and "and" in above sentence:
""The alterations are minor, except for the treatment of the west gable, a very imposing blind gable which was completely reworked ..."
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blind spot
as in: what you don't see in your rear-view mirror...
Peer comment(s):
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liz askew
: frustratingly, my refs re "blind spot" did not come through. I must have pressed the wrong button/or did't press the button as the case may be :-)
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Thanks, Liz. Most of the time I look for references after posting my answer. Here's one: www.whitepapers.zdnet.co.uk/0,1000000651,260256776p-3900045... - 90k -//However, we may both be wrong in this case...see answer by Zi_neb
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B D Finch
: That is not what it means. Zi-neb's explanation is correct, but she didn't give the right translation.
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Michael Tovbin
: with B D Finch: blind spot is an area that is physically beyond a person's field of view or a situation when a person refuses to see another's character flaws.
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"Beyond a person's field of view" is what I had in mind, but I concede I was wrong in this architectural context.
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dark part
partie aveugle càd sans aucune ouverture qui laisse passer la lumière. On dit d'une pièce obscure, sans fenêtre "une pièce aveugle"
Good luck,
Good luck,
Peer comment(s):
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B D Finch
: Correct explanation, but English also uses the term "blind" for this. "Dark" would not be right, because light has to be brought in, whether from above, by sun tube or artificial lighting.
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Thanks for your clarifications :)
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windowless gable
Agree with BDF on specifying "gable," and while "blind gable" is indeed correct, "windowless" seems to be used just as frequently and may more clearly convey the meaning.
Just another idea to choose from!
Just another idea to choose from!
Example sentence:
Windowless gable-end walls can be covered with a mural or with self-clinging plants.
Blank, windowless gable ends and large areas of blank walls should generally be avoided as these create spaces that are both unattractive and lack natural light.
Peer comment(s):
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Jack Dunwell
: Yes, or any other opening...eg a door. Cheerypie, if you can back that up, I will grovel and support you with due apologies. This is an outside wall...
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I'm not convinced that's accurate. A "pièce aveugle," for example, has no windows but can certainly have a door.
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blank wall
"A wall with not openings for doors or windows"
[Scott/Penguin Dict of Bldg]
Also given as "blind wall", with ref. back to "blank wall"
The Dict. of Architecture and Construction by Cyril M Harris [McGHill] does the same, with "blind wall" referring to "blank wall" with the definition:
blank wall, blind wall, dead wall - A wall whose whole surface is unbroken by a window, door, or other opening.
[Scott/Penguin Dict of Bldg]
Also given as "blind wall", with ref. back to "blank wall"
The Dict. of Architecture and Construction by Cyril M Harris [McGHill] does the same, with "blind wall" referring to "blank wall" with the definition:
blank wall, blind wall, dead wall - A wall whose whole surface is unbroken by a window, door, or other opening.
Peer comment(s):
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Jack Dunwell
: sans ouvertures. Separately mentioned is Gable-end
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cjohnstone
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writeaway
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Christopher Crockett
: Yes, some kind of "unarticulated" wall.
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dark area
The expression is 'dark area(s)'.
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