Sep 11, 2014 12:13
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Without struggle there's no progress
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| 5 +1 | Sine luctatione nullus progressus est. |
Joseph Brazauskas
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| 2 | Sine certamine est non profectus |
AKhram
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Proposed translations
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Sine certamine est non profectus
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Note from asker:
| Thanks. I feel "profectus", as "progressus" means "progress in the study". I'm looking for a more generic term. What do you think? |
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Joseph Brazauskas
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Sine luctatione nullus progressus est.
'Luctatio' means literally 'wrestling' but is used metaphorically of any 'struggle' by Cicero, Livy, and other classical authors.
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Note added at 6 hrs (2014-09-11 18:34:02 GMT)
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'Progressio' means 'progress, advancement' in a more general sense. Save, however, for one instance (Quintilian, Institutio Oratoria, 9.1.33, who uses it in the sense of a 'rhetorical) climax'), it is found in no other author besides Cicero, although I should imagine that Cicero's authority should suffice. Cicero uses it in the same sense as does Quintilian at 'de oratore' 3.54.206 but more commonly he employs it in a non-technical sense, e.g.:
de finibus, 5.21.58: "omnium rerum principia parva sunt, sed suis progressionibus una augentur", "The elements of everything are small but by means of their own progress they increase together".
Tusculanae Disputationes, 4.1.1: "Tum progressio admirabilis incredibilisque cursus ad omnem excellentiam factus est dominatu regio re publica liberata", "Then a remarkable progress and incredible impetus towards every excellence occurred after the Republic was set free from royal domination".
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Note added at 6 hrs (2014-09-11 18:34:02 GMT)
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'Progressio' means 'progress, advancement' in a more general sense. Save, however, for one instance (Quintilian, Institutio Oratoria, 9.1.33, who uses it in the sense of a 'rhetorical) climax'), it is found in no other author besides Cicero, although I should imagine that Cicero's authority should suffice. Cicero uses it in the same sense as does Quintilian at 'de oratore' 3.54.206 but more commonly he employs it in a non-technical sense, e.g.:
de finibus, 5.21.58: "omnium rerum principia parva sunt, sed suis progressionibus una augentur", "The elements of everything are small but by means of their own progress they increase together".
Tusculanae Disputationes, 4.1.1: "Tum progressio admirabilis incredibilisque cursus ad omnem excellentiam factus est dominatu regio re publica liberata", "Then a remarkable progress and incredible impetus towards every excellence occurred after the Republic was set free from royal domination".
Note from asker:
| Thanks. I feel "profectus", as "progressus" means "progress in the study". I'm looking for a more generic term. What do you think? |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
BrigitteHilgner
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That seems likely. Thank you.
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